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**Ruiceara** · 02-28-2008, 02:09 PM

hello everyone!

kellynuts asked in a earlier post if i thought god made adam and eve the first humans. i really dont know what i think about that exactly. i dont think we were the direct creation from god 'the divine'. i think we were like a sub creation that was the effect of a cause from higher realms of 'beings' that were the more direct creation from the divine. the higher 'beings' being a results of the original chaos and us being a result from their chaos. its so hard to explain what i think in the language we use. i see everything trickling down from a one source and each trickle after a certain point contained chaos from the original separation.

back to the word 'evil'...my point being is that what i consider to be the base of 'evil' is not what most see it as today. most see it as a way to describe how bad things came to this world through satan or the fall of angles. but i see it as a source of the effect from the cause of separation.
the reason ive been pondering about the 'origin' of evil (or bad things) is because of the confusion in many old text that humans kept feeling a need to explain why bad things were here with us in this world. i think the serpent and the tree of knowledge are metaphors saying that good and bad existed before the creation of humans. it bothers me that so many relate the origin of evil to eve eating an apple from a tree she was forbidden from.

i dont think we are supposed to ignore the fact that good and bad or not a result of the actions of one human. i think we should try to see the purpose in the old writings of the forever confusion that us humans have by trying to understand why is there bad experiences as well as good experiences. yes, we know both positive and negative exist. but why?? the reason in my thoughts is simply gods way of letting us know we are here because of something that happened in the chaos that resulted our existence. gosh, am i making any sense here

ones understanding may not be anothers understanding, but i still feel its important to share our experiences.

someone stated that i use the words 'i feel' when i should be bold and use the words 'i think'. again, ones way may not be anothers. to me, when i use the words 'i feel' im actually being more bold then to say what 'i think'. to me using the words 'i fell' is basing something on a deep intuition. to me it is bolder to base something on a intuition rather then what the mind has figured out. but for others, its the opposite. i am a person of intuition, so what i 'feel' is more powerful to me then what i 'think'. just my personal 'feelings' when i say 'i feel' it more or less means that ive come to a answer that not only i think is right, but my soul and higher self has shown agreement to my thoughts.

peace to all,
lynette

sorry if my reply seems a lil broken im trying to answer each of your paragraphs seperately in conjunction to my paragraphs.

so in todays terms we may have been created from a more advanced species?
your using the word "think" alot. heres a lil advice, think about what u believe in then think of contradictories to that that u also believe in. hope im making sense now

remember there has to be 2 sides to every stick! positive and negative. cause and effect, blah, blah.
in my opinion u cant believe alot of what societies religion has taught us, its a form of manipulation. using the contridiction method you can find in yourself what u believe in. take adam & eve for example(using what i believe in), if you think they were put here as 1st man and woman. well i believe that if you inter-marry with relatives and procreate it will end in disaster. already confirming my contradiction to adam & eve. i try to use this method with almost all my questions in everyday life, especially the tough ones, dont really ever have any problem finding the answers either.
i think this is the best form of "religion"(for lack of a better word) because its not what someone else believes in or what u read from a book, its all coming from your own inner thoughts and beliefs. so if u "cheat" your only cheating yourself.

i personally think we have bad experiences as u said, so we can learn from them. we also learn from good experiences.

i also sense like your masking your words, with what u may think be more appropriate?!? or am i barkin up the wrong tree here.

02-28-2008, 02:09 PM	#22
Ruiceara Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 492 Senior Member	hello everyone! kellynuts asked in a earlier post if i thought god made adam and eve the first humans. i really dont know what i think about that exactly. i dont think we were the direct creation from god 'the divine'. i think we were like a sub creation that was the effect of a cause from higher realms of 'beings' that were the more direct creation from the divine. the higher 'beings' being a results of the original chaos and us being a result from their chaos. its so hard to explain what i think in the language we use. i see everything trickling down from a one source and each trickle after a certain point contained chaos from the original separation. back to the word 'evil'...my point being is that what i consider to be the base of 'evil' is not what most see it as today. most see it as a way to describe how bad things came to this world through satan or the fall of angles. but i see it as a source of the effect from the cause of separation. the reason ive been pondering about the 'origin' of evil (or bad things) is because of the confusion in many old text that humans kept feeling a need to explain why bad things were here with us in this world. i think the serpent and the tree of knowledge are metaphors saying that good and bad existed before the creation of humans. it bothers me that so many relate the origin of evil to eve eating an apple from a tree she was forbidden from. i dont think we are supposed to ignore the fact that good and bad or not a result of the actions of one human. i think we should try to see the purpose in the old writings of the forever confusion that us humans have by trying to understand why is there bad experiences as well as good experiences. yes, we know both positive and negative exist. but why?? the reason in my thoughts is simply gods way of letting us know we are here because of something that happened in the chaos that resulted our existence. gosh, am i making any sense here ones understanding may not be anothers understanding, but i still feel its important to share our experiences. someone stated that i use the words 'i feel' when i should be bold and use the words 'i think'. again, ones way may not be anothers. to me, when i use the words 'i feel' im actually being more bold then to say what 'i think'. to me using the words 'i fell' is basing something on a deep intuition. to me it is bolder to base something on a intuition rather then what the mind has figured out. but for others, its the opposite. i am a person of intuition, so what i 'feel' is more powerful to me then what i 'think'. just my personal 'feelings' when i say 'i feel' it more or less means that ive come to a answer that not only i think is right, but my soul and higher self has shown agreement to my thoughts. peace to all, lynette sorry if my reply seems a lil broken im trying to answer each of your paragraphs seperately in conjunction to my paragraphs. so in todays terms we may have been created from a more advanced species? your using the word "think" alot. heres a lil advice, think about what u believe in then think of contradictories to that that u also believe in. hope im making sense now remember there has to be 2 sides to every stick! positive and negative. cause and effect, blah, blah. in my opinion u cant believe alot of what societies religion has taught us, its a form of manipulation. using the contridiction method you can find in yourself what u believe in. take adam & eve for example(using what i believe in), if you think they were put here as 1st man and woman. well i believe that if you inter-marry with relatives and procreate it will end in disaster. already confirming my contradiction to adam & eve. i try to use this method with almost all my questions in everyday life, especially the tough ones, dont really ever have any problem finding the answers either. i think this is the best form of "religion"(for lack of a better word) because its not what someone else believes in or what u read from a book, its all coming from your own inner thoughts and beliefs. so if u "cheat" your only cheating yourself. i personally think we have bad experiences as u said, so we can learn from them. we also learn from good experiences. i also sense like your masking your words, with what u may think be more appropriate?!? or am i barkin up the wrong tree here.
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