[arreskslarlig]

hello asa,

your opening was so polite, thus i deeply apologize that i tend to be a bit argumentative; however, i see a real misunderstanding of my meaning, so i will go through and respond bit by bit.

the portion that i call to question is the use of "unconditionally"

this is not consistent with the actions of master yeshua nor with the, what i find to be, intent of his charge - that we are to love one another as he loved us. that does not mean unconditionally as demonstrated by master yeshua himself.

from my perspective, there is no reason to conclude that yeshua ever failed to love anyone. also, you say the one creator loves us unconditionally, but that yeshua does not. is that right? remember, he said that the father in heaven sends his rain on the just and the unjust, gives the sun to the evil and the good, says to love your enemies and 'be ye therefore perfect even as your father in heaven is perfect.' matt 5, 44-48

but i will explain!

unconditional love means that we will love and accept regardless of what the other may have done.

yes, absolutely, that is exactly what it means but that does not make bad actions good or acceptable.

this is the type of love a parent has for a child.
i certainly hope not - some parents who do this raise criminals.

it is the kind of love one receives from the one infinite creator.

be ye therefore perfect as your father in heaven is perfect.

it is a passionate love.

on the contrary, it is impersonal. universal means without respect of persons. passionate, personal love tends to be more egotistical.

unselfish love on the other hand is a loving and acceptance of another as being part of the one but it does not mean that i have to condone nor accept actions that are contrary to another's free will.

nothing about condoning negative actions. love and approval of actions are not the same thing. i, personally, am kind of looking forward to getting away from the meanies, at least for a while, so that the rest of us can have more fun. and relax.

master yeshua demonstrated that he practiced unselfish love when he drove the money changers and others from the temple. if he practiced unconditional love he would have had to accept the acts of the others and still have loved them.

really? how about this - he did not accept their actions but he also still loved them?

it is also a demonstration that actions based on inner emotional conflict is acceptable as long as it is within reason.

i'm not sure about what inner emotional conflict was there. the religion had been perverted, they were profiting from what should have been holy, and the keys of knowledge taken away from the people. (luke 11:52)

i do not think the biblical scriptures are perfect or the word of god. i think they vary in quality from inspiration by negative entities to inspiration of the holy spirit, and that we need to have sufficient wisdom to weigh them.

the teachings of yeshua are reasonably intact, but they are also mistranslated/interpolated in places.