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copied fr mreee's ....Got Tricked

Just some thoughts...



This business of accepting the 'other' reality as just an-other reality rather than challenging that 'other' reality as an explorer in a strange land hadn’t really come into focus until recently - not until I had the experience of a ‘mini OBE’ did I really get it. At that point I basically caught myself in the act - red-handed - if you will. Naturally I wondered if there might be a way to signal myself out of the presumption that being OB in my house was not out of the ordinary.

I think this is basically the conundrum CF is pointing to - whatever devise we might adopt to determine our status - awake real world vs asleep ‘other’ world - will ultimately if not immediately become natural and ordinary to the other world experience. Recently I enjoyed an extended dream of ‘flying’ which should be signal enough that I was dreaming but I was enjoying it too much to challenge the ‘reality’. Suppose you’re in the theater watching a movie and just as the action comes to its climax someone taps you on the shoulder and says, “You’re watching a movie. Come, I’ll show you the projector.” what’s going to be your reaction? Probably something like, “I KNOW I’m watching a movie and please don’t bother me right now.”

This is the line of logic that the vast majority of us the majority of the time are witness to. Wake anybody up during REM sleep and they’ll tell you they were dreaming. If it were possible to ask them if they’re dreaming without waking them up they might become lucid, answer with a distracted “yes”, and just keep on dreaming in a please-don’t-bother-me sort of way.

Some time ago I became lucid to the extent that I asked myself the question. Standing on a high ledge I wondered if I could jump; ‘yes’ dreaming, ‘no’ not dreaming. I thought about it for some time and unable to satisfy myself one way or the other I turned and continued walking down the road. Later I stole a sailboat from a restaurant and sailed it across the desert. I did quite a few things that can only be done in dreamland but for the duration of this remarkable dream the question remained irrelevant.

This, IMO, is lucid dreaming and is such a fantastic campus for personal growth that if one’s spiritual path had taken him that far, it is warranty enough against any fears of death and so much more.

And then I had my mini OBE and everything changed. For a moment I caught myself simply ‘being’ without the movie. I’ve astrally projected to scenes where I knew I was a mere observer, a visitor before, but even that was dreamland. For the most part (aside from flying occasionally) I accepted the usual laws of gravity, solidity, distance, time etc., but that moment when I caught myself (naughty boy) sitting on the couch, on or in my own sleeping torso, smoking my pipe, I understood with certain clarity what the near-earth OBE was about and what a different world it is from anything I had previously experienced.

Now, back to the real question, the one mree and CF were considering; how can we signal ourselves into the recognition that this is ‘not awake’ and ‘not a dream’ but a totally different situation. For me, it was the display of the fire in my pipe reflecting on the glass panes of the french doors - it was just too fantastic to be real world which triggered my consciousness to think about what was going on.

I’ve been thinking in my imagination of making a blinking neon sign that says “Otherworld”, and placing it over the doors of my bedroom and study - that it would have an astral/etheric reality and I would see it during my exits during the night.

Pretty silly, huh. But then again, would I simply accept it as normal - what could be the equivalent of a dancing pipe-coal in the glass?