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Old 01-20-2011, 10:39 PM   #3
Ggskbpbz

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Thanks for the reply CFT,

I understand what you're saying about the sleep cycles, and it would make sense to me that this is the case. Most of my 'natural' OBEs come around this time, and that could explain why i haven't been able to achieve some of the results.

I have a followup question on my inability to fly. The fact that i was getting less and less energized, down to the point were i could only walk, indicated to me that my experience was less than ideal and i opted to reconnect. I really don't know much beyond the etheric or RTZ, is it normal to feel this way before going into the astral? Do you request to be brought into the astral or does it happen naturally? Lastly, how do you know you've achieved a shift?

Hopefully you were able to get some coffee in you before my barrage of questions...

Smythe
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