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**Hammaduersnes** · 07-30-2009, 03:16 AM

Have you tried getting up very early (like 2 hours before waking up) and phasing? If you do this, say, once a week it shouldn't disrupt your life too much, and the approach will take pressure off the need to separate into the RTZ. If you then want to visit the RTZ you can 'downshift' once you've phased into the astral.
Most of the methods for what I described can be found in the OBE Research and Discussions subforum.

07-30-2009, 03:16 AM	#2
Hammaduersnes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 701 Senior Member	Have you tried getting up very early (like 2 hours before waking up) and phasing? If you do this, say, once a week it shouldn't disrupt your life too much, and the approach will take pressure off the need to separate into the RTZ. If you then want to visit the RTZ you can 'downshift' once you've phased into the astral. Most of the methods for what I described can be found in the OBE Research and Discussions subforum.
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