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**Hammaduersnes** · 03-23-2009, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by CFTraveler I used to etheric project out into space all the time, and even went close to the moon once (close, but not close enough). The minute I decided I wanted to go there, that was it. No more space travel, except for remote viewing. It's frustrating- but I think it has to do with development (in your case). Your understanding leads me to believe that you have evolved past the etheric projection as the first step to projection (I'm not sure if you know what I mean) so I would suggest 'backing into it'- astral project to the moon, and then step down into an etheric projection 'there'- I'd suggest asking for help, and also asking if it's the right way to do it.
In fact, I think I'll take my own advice and try it.

No, I don't quite understand what you mean? What I mean is that most people have to build up the ability to astral project- most often people who start to project consciously naturally start at the RTZ/etheric level, and when they get 'attuned' to it, they start projecting directly into the astral. Of course like any other 'rule' there's exceptions, but I do think this is how it happens for most people. It is also my personal experience that once you astral project a lot, etheric projections don't last, there is usually a portal of some sort that transports you to the astral 'proper', and I tend to arrive there directly, and I have to tell you I used to etheric project for years, before I was going to astral locales.
So this leads me to believe that once you start to get attuned to the astral, it's harder to adjust to going into the RTZ, and it takes conscious effort to do so.

But when you say "back into it", do you mean - dropping down from the astral to the etheric plane? Yes, that's it.

If I look intently at a photograph of the moon through out the day and also before I go to sleep on an evening - this should make my astral senses materialize the moon environment and hence if its still fresh in my mind before I go to sleep, I should, hopefully find myself there when I sleep. I just need to make sure im lucid when im in the moon environment.

Would I then drop down to the Etheric plane, which would move myself to the Etheric moon? I would do something different- I would think on the intent to go to the moon, and when I'm in trance and can perceive guides (or whatever you get when you do it) I would ask to be taken to the moon on an astral projection, or etherically.
If you find yourself in the starry void, I'd ask to go there, and see where that gets you. In that case it's most probably going to be an astral environment, but once you're there, I'd speak out the intention to make it etheric, if possible, and see what happens.

Maybe I'll meet with a few Aliens and UFO's ?

Or their projected doubles.

03-23-2009, 07:53 AM	#4
Hammaduersnes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 701 Senior Member	Originally Posted by CFTraveler I used to etheric project out into space all the time, and even went close to the moon once (close, but not close enough). The minute I decided I wanted to go there, that was it. No more space travel, except for remote viewing. It's frustrating- but I think it has to do with development (in your case). Your understanding leads me to believe that you have evolved past the etheric projection as the first step to projection (I'm not sure if you know what I mean) so I would suggest 'backing into it'- astral project to the moon, and then step down into an etheric projection 'there'- I'd suggest asking for help, and also asking if it's the right way to do it. In fact, I think I'll take my own advice and try it. No, I don't quite understand what you mean? What I mean is that most people have to build up the ability to astral project- most often people who start to project consciously naturally start at the RTZ/etheric level, and when they get 'attuned' to it, they start projecting directly into the astral. Of course like any other 'rule' there's exceptions, but I do think this is how it happens for most people. It is also my personal experience that once you astral project a lot, etheric projections don't last, there is usually a portal of some sort that transports you to the astral 'proper', and I tend to arrive there directly, and I have to tell you I used to etheric project for years, before I was going to astral locales. So this leads me to believe that once you start to get attuned to the astral, it's harder to adjust to going into the RTZ, and it takes conscious effort to do so. But when you say "back into it", do you mean - dropping down from the astral to the etheric plane? Yes, that's it. If I look intently at a photograph of the moon through out the day and also before I go to sleep on an evening - this should make my astral senses materialize the moon environment and hence if its still fresh in my mind before I go to sleep, I should, hopefully find myself there when I sleep. I just need to make sure im lucid when im in the moon environment. Would I then drop down to the Etheric plane, which would move myself to the Etheric moon? I would do something different- I would think on the intent to go to the moon, and when I'm in trance and can perceive guides (or whatever you get when you do it) I would ask to be taken to the moon on an astral projection, or etherically. If you find yourself in the starry void, I'd ask to go there, and see where that gets you. In that case it's most probably going to be an astral environment, but once you're there, I'd speak out the intention to make it etheric, if possible, and see what happens. Maybe I'll meet with a few Aliens and UFO's ? Or their projected doubles.
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