[Crilosajsamq]

Greetings,

I am new to this forum and I want to start by saying how happy I am to find a forum that is large, active, and constructive like this one. I have happened across one too many AP forums that aren't even worth the time it took to register.

So I've been practicing AP for about a month now and thus far I'm taking to most of the process like a fish to water. I think it might be important to say that I've been researching AP for over 5-6 years now but just recently started to seriously attempt projection. And I never researched AP as a skeptic who needed convincing, I believed it from the first time I heard about it. I don't really know why I never attempted to project seriously up until now. I just intuitively knew that the time wasn't right. The point of this is that I am well versed in AP theoretically, I know my Astral Projection, I just haven't felt my AP, which is a world of difference.

Now I'm practicing as frequently as possible, which amount to about 6-10 times a week. I am following techniques from Astral Dynamics and for most of the attempt I am successful. I can induce a trance [though my body doesn't go numb and I'm not fully paralyzed, I don't know if that's necessary, I didn't think it was] and I've learned the mental process that produces a falling sensation in my body. I do my relaxation, some energy movement/stimulation, induce trance, energy circuit, then start climbing the rope. Sometimes I'll sit/lie there for 1 to 1-1/2 hours and sometimes it takes 30 minutes. The first time I sat down to make an attempt [after having read AD] it took about 1-1/2 hours and then BAM! out of nowhere my breath picked up, my "heart" started pounding, my eyes started flickering open/shut, I thought I was having a seizure or something because of how hard my "heart" felt like it was beating. It felt like my whole body was shaking. Then i felt a floating sensation in my hands and arms and then nothing.

I knew that the sensations I felt were normal, exit related symptoms, so I knew I was close. I kept at it and within 6 more attempts I was down to almost no symptoms [at least nothing so intense that I couldn't ignore them]. Yet I still haven't be able to successfully exit. I've gotten so far as to feeling my head, legs, and arms all floating at the same time. I have tried many different techniques from Robert Bruce and others [but mostly RB's] and still no success.

I don't know if I'm over thinking or if I'm tensing up or what. I've tried at every time of day and every degree of tiredness or relaxation I can find. I don't think it's fear related because like I said, I'm very familiar with what to expect. I've got Monroe's "Gateway Experience" and "Journeys Out of the Body" Hemi Sync collections but I have had less success with those than with what I'd been doing before on my own, so I'm probably not going to use those any more because as RB says "what works works".

I don't know what else there is to do besides keep it up. And I have no intention of giving up, I was just wondering if there was anything anyone could spot that has the potential to be holding me back.

Also, I have a specific question that I haven't been able to find an answer to anywhere. How long does separation take? Not how long does the whole projection take, just the actual moment of separation, the exit. Because I begin feeling like my arms and legs are floating, like they are separate, or I feel like my body is separating, but its always really slow and I can't keep up the movement that is jarring the double loose. So from the moment that you first begin to sense the separation until the point where you're saying "Hey, I'm not in my body anymore". Is it a slow process that happens little by little over the course of a couple minutes or is it always really fast?

Thank You for your help.

Rusty