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**buIf6yoW** · 01-22-2009, 08:02 AM

Firstly, Happy New Year everyone (esp CFtraveler). I have not posted in awhile, have had a few almost projections and such, but nothing worth adding to my log. I find that I go through long dry spells of little or no activety and then poof, I will have an experience. Have stated before that it seems the harder I try to have an OBE, the less happens.

One question I have after reading my own Log on here and others is how do you distinguish between a lucid dream and actual OBE? Maybe I am missing something, but they sound very similar to me. And, now after reading some LD info and accounts I am wondering if what I am doing is LD and not OBE?? (Read Russmi3 Log if needed).
In other words am I dreaming I am OBEing or am I OBEing?

My other question is more of a request of others. I would be very interested if someone would do a step by step account of how they relax/go into trance. This may be a herculean task and if so I understand no answers.....
What I am most interested in, because I have trouble focusing or clearing my mind is how others do this specifically. The best I have read in advice is to use a mantra, but I find even if I do that, there are still background thoughts intruding my mind. The catch 22 I find is that if you are thinking "No thoughts" or "Mind clear" then you are thinking a thought or several????
I have counted "actually wrote down as I had them pop in" over 70 unique thoughts in 30 minutes!! Stupid , mundain, thoughts. Any help with this would be appreciated......

01-22-2009, 08:02 AM	#1
buIf6yoW Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	A couple questions........ Firstly, Happy New Year everyone (esp CFtraveler). I have not posted in awhile, have had a few almost projections and such, but nothing worth adding to my log. I find that I go through long dry spells of little or no activety and then poof, I will have an experience. Have stated before that it seems the harder I try to have an OBE, the less happens. One question I have after reading my own Log on here and others is how do you distinguish between a lucid dream and actual OBE? Maybe I am missing something, but they sound very similar to me. And, now after reading some LD info and accounts I am wondering if what I am doing is LD and not OBE?? (Read Russmi3 Log if needed). In other words am I dreaming I am OBEing or am I OBEing? My other question is more of a request of others. I would be very interested if someone would do a step by step account of how they relax/go into trance. This may be a herculean task and if so I understand no answers..... What I am most interested in, because I have trouble focusing or clearing my mind is how others do this specifically. The best I have read in advice is to use a mantra, but I find even if I do that, there are still background thoughts intruding my mind. The catch 22 I find is that if you are thinking "No thoughts" or "Mind clear" then you are thinking a thought or several???? I have counted "actually wrote down as I had them pop in" over 70 unique thoughts in 30 minutes!! Stupid , mundain, thoughts. Any help with this would be appreciated......
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