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**preachadaq** · 12-15-2008, 01:42 PM

Thanks, I actually given up. I release it will come when the right time comes. It can be discouraging and stressful when it doesn't work the way I expected it to to be. So it is better to wait but I'm still meditating though.

I stopped trying for a long time, but got some lucid dreams since then and "odd memories", meditation hypnagogics, etc. Showing me basically that I can do it, but my conscious efforts were maybe too strained? Letting go of ideas of "how it is done" can be a great boon to spontaneous experiences.

Ditto to CF on the chest pains. Trance can amplify and highlight existing problems.

Take care,
Oliver

12-15-2008, 01:42 PM	#7
preachadaq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	Thanks, I actually given up. I release it will come when the right time comes. It can be discouraging and stressful when it doesn't work the way I expected it to to be. So it is better to wait but I'm still meditating though. I stopped trying for a long time, but got some lucid dreams since then and "odd memories", meditation hypnagogics, etc. Showing me basically that I can do it, but my conscious efforts were maybe too strained? Letting go of ideas of "how it is done" can be a great boon to spontaneous experiences. Ditto to CF on the chest pains. Trance can amplify and highlight existing problems. Take care, Oliver
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