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**Jalieteplalry** · 11-19-2008, 08:00 AM

I don't think so- in the liminal state a lot of stimuli gets brought to the surface, (that can even be memory-related) and the feedback between the energy body, dream body and physical body can do weird things to your experience. If I were you I'd do some clearing and shielding before projecting, because even though I don't think anything external is bothering you, the feeling of security will go a long way to go out in a more carefree way.
Even the simplest circle casting or prayer does wonders for this sort of thing, regardless of beliefs.

Thank you CFT!

These facial movement do not scare me. I usually just go with the flow. But I just don't know what they are. Some people have their limbs move around by themselves. Mine is usually the twitching of my neck and head. Less usual is the muscle on my face being suck in one direction, like something in the face got pulled in one direction. I am not even doing anything or thinking about anything. I do know these have to do with energy, because they get intense and stronger after I work on my secondary energy centers. Also these only happen when I am totally relaxed in bed and doesn't happen any other time.

Does anyone else experience the similar movement, like a big opening sucking them, when you are trying OBE?

11-19-2008, 08:00 AM	#3
Jalieteplalry Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 389 Senior Member	I don't think so- in the liminal state a lot of stimuli gets brought to the surface, (that can even be memory-related) and the feedback between the energy body, dream body and physical body can do weird things to your experience. If I were you I'd do some clearing and shielding before projecting, because even though I don't think anything external is bothering you, the feeling of security will go a long way to go out in a more carefree way. Even the simplest circle casting or prayer does wonders for this sort of thing, regardless of beliefs. Thank you CFT! These facial movement do not scare me. I usually just go with the flow. But I just don't know what they are. Some people have their limbs move around by themselves. Mine is usually the twitching of my neck and head. Less usual is the muscle on my face being suck in one direction, like something in the face got pulled in one direction. I am not even doing anything or thinking about anything. I do know these have to do with energy, because they get intense and stronger after I work on my secondary energy centers. Also these only happen when I am totally relaxed in bed and doesn't happen any other time. Does anyone else experience the similar movement, like a big opening sucking them, when you are trying OBE?
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