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**LICraig** · 01-30-2008, 11:07 AM

normally i ask aloud to be taken to a destination, i havent tried picturing a target yet although this seems to be a logical method, what techniques are people here using, and where have you gone? im beginning to feel that i need to divorce myself from the spacial constraint currently imposed on my mind by my own physical perceptions of the 4 dimensional environment i inhabit here, time and distance certainly seem to be more malleable in the astral, if not perhaps capable of being dispensed with altogether... and of course i still wonder whether the travel itself is just a trick of my mind, maybe it just comes down to the unification of two events in time and/or space, the unification of the jennifer event with the karnak temple event ...or, something...

jennifer

I think that you are probably right about our perceptions of the 4 dimensional environment we are used to. I have not had success in controlling where I go during obes. I sometimes want to go somewhere and also ask for help getting there, but I have never been teleported there. However, after the experience, during my reflections of it and analyzation, I understand where it was (and maybe why) that I have been taken. Usually these places are not a physical place that exists on the Earth (it looks like Earth), but somehow they correspond to either a state of being, emotion, or something spiritual that's purpose I don't always understand. Once, two years after an obe, I realized that I had been taken/gone to the future. I realized this after the future event happened, and I remembered that I had been there in the obe. I feel that as I am gaining control/wisdom/experience, I will be able to move more freely to the locations where I desire to go.

Just for the record, does the RTZ mean "real time zone", and is this referring to what is actually happening on the physical plane? If so, then I cannot confirm that in obe's a person can view the actual world as it is taking place in our physical reality. It can be possible, but from what I gather the world we view during obe is a replica created from another dimension that parallels the physical world.

01-30-2008, 11:07 AM	#9
LICraig Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	normally i ask aloud to be taken to a destination, i havent tried picturing a target yet although this seems to be a logical method, what techniques are people here using, and where have you gone? im beginning to feel that i need to divorce myself from the spacial constraint currently imposed on my mind by my own physical perceptions of the 4 dimensional environment i inhabit here, time and distance certainly seem to be more malleable in the astral, if not perhaps capable of being dispensed with altogether... and of course i still wonder whether the travel itself is just a trick of my mind, maybe it just comes down to the unification of two events in time and/or space, the unification of the jennifer event with the karnak temple event ...or, something... jennifer I think that you are probably right about our perceptions of the 4 dimensional environment we are used to. I have not had success in controlling where I go during obes. I sometimes want to go somewhere and also ask for help getting there, but I have never been teleported there. However, after the experience, during my reflections of it and analyzation, I understand where it was (and maybe why) that I have been taken. Usually these places are not a physical place that exists on the Earth (it looks like Earth), but somehow they correspond to either a state of being, emotion, or something spiritual that's purpose I don't always understand. Once, two years after an obe, I realized that I had been taken/gone to the future. I realized this after the future event happened, and I remembered that I had been there in the obe. I feel that as I am gaining control/wisdom/experience, I will be able to move more freely to the locations where I desire to go. Just for the record, does the RTZ mean "real time zone", and is this referring to what is actually happening on the physical plane? If so, then I cannot confirm that in obe's a person can view the actual world as it is taking place in our physical reality. It can be possible, but from what I gather the world we view during obe is a replica created from another dimension that parallels the physical world.
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