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**Keyclenef** · 04-04-2008, 02:38 AM

A good day to everybody! Iâ€™ve been trolling the forums for awhile now, just reading here n there and
Iâ€™ve finally decided to join the forums.

G'day to you too. I'm glad you did.

ATM Iâ€™m reading Treatise and Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce and might I say his theories are
astonishing. I've known about AP for about 8 years now, with no real success. Wherever I go, I would
continuously find AP teachers who would seem to know all the answers but would always be
contradicting themselves. It really discouraged and disappointed me. But reading Astral Dynamics
was mind blowing, finally being able to really have a grasp of what AP is, to finally have a more solid
foundation. Even the whole approach to AP, the experiments and hypothesis, something clicked
inside of me that I just canâ€™t explain. And now Iâ€™m more dedicated to APing than ever.

During the 8 years that Iâ€™ve known about AP Iâ€™ve been practising occasionally and so far Iâ€™ve felt the
vibrations, sometimes dizziness and even another body inside of me, possibly, I donâ€™t know. But I
could never AP. Iâ€™m speculating that my relaxation skills arenâ€™t up to notch so Iâ€™m gonna try practise
that a bit more and hopefully one day AP. It sounds like you've gotten quite close to projecting indeed, if the vibrations are exit sensations and the dizziness are energy body loosening, which is what it sounds like.
Thereâ€™s one question Iâ€™d like to ask though, a lot of the times when Iâ€™m attempting to induce OBE, I
would end up sitting there for around 3 hours, although for me it only feels like an hour at max. Is it
because Iâ€™m in a meditation state or is it because Iâ€™m not remembering my OBE? Sometimes I begin
to fall asleep without knowing and I would feel a shock instantly that would mentally wake me up. It could be either. It sounds to me like you may be clicking out and it seems that three hours is too much. Do you find that the three hours include relaxation, energy raising, meditative practices and trance induction techniques, or just meditation/trance per se? This would give me an indication of what your problem may be, even though right off it sounds to me like you're clicking out.
Iâ€™m not meaning to tell my life story or anything but Iâ€™m a real science freak but before anything else,
I am first and foremost a spiritual person and it has been that way for as long as I can remember.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I feel like Iâ€™m missing something

Thx for reading
-Hibby If you don't mind, I'd like a bit more info, like what exactly is your routine for projection practice?
Thanks, CF.

04-04-2008, 02:38 AM	#2
Keyclenef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	A good day to everybody! Iâ€™ve been trolling the forums for awhile now, just reading here n there and Iâ€™ve finally decided to join the forums. G'day to you too. I'm glad you did. ATM Iâ€™m reading Treatise and Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce and might I say his theories are astonishing. I've known about AP for about 8 years now, with no real success. Wherever I go, I would continuously find AP teachers who would seem to know all the answers but would always be contradicting themselves. It really discouraged and disappointed me. But reading Astral Dynamics was mind blowing, finally being able to really have a grasp of what AP is, to finally have a more solid foundation. Even the whole approach to AP, the experiments and hypothesis, something clicked inside of me that I just canâ€™t explain. And now Iâ€™m more dedicated to APing than ever. During the 8 years that Iâ€™ve known about AP Iâ€™ve been practising occasionally and so far Iâ€™ve felt the vibrations, sometimes dizziness and even another body inside of me, possibly, I donâ€™t know. But I could never AP. Iâ€™m speculating that my relaxation skills arenâ€™t up to notch so Iâ€™m gonna try practise that a bit more and hopefully one day AP. It sounds like you've gotten quite close to projecting indeed, if the vibrations are exit sensations and the dizziness are energy body loosening, which is what it sounds like. Thereâ€™s one question Iâ€™d like to ask though, a lot of the times when Iâ€™m attempting to induce OBE, I would end up sitting there for around 3 hours, although for me it only feels like an hour at max. Is it because Iâ€™m in a meditation state or is it because Iâ€™m not remembering my OBE? Sometimes I begin to fall asleep without knowing and I would feel a shock instantly that would mentally wake me up. It could be either. It sounds to me like you may be clicking out and it seems that three hours is too much. Do you find that the three hours include relaxation, energy raising, meditative practices and trance induction techniques, or just meditation/trance per se? This would give me an indication of what your problem may be, even though right off it sounds to me like you're clicking out. Iâ€™m not meaning to tell my life story or anything but Iâ€™m a real science freak but before anything else, I am first and foremost a spiritual person and it has been that way for as long as I can remember. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... I feel like Iâ€™m missing something Thx for reading -Hibby If you don't mind, I'd like a bit more info, like what exactly is your routine for projection practice? Thanks, CF.
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