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**emorbimefed** · 03-17-2008, 08:48 PM

Thanks for your reply, Aunt Clair.

I've been working on this since my original post. I think one of my biggie problems is that I'm a very visually-oriented person, and I think that's working to my detriment with the OBE thing. I've been trying to gain astral sight by visualizing thru my closed eyes; I realized yesterday that that's all wrong. It's an entirely different part of the brain that needs to be engaged.

I'm trying now to turn off all visual references while meditating, instead focusing on hearing, breathing, etc. I'm determined to do this thing, no matter how long it takes me

Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome. I value everyone's input.

Just one comment: If you're a visual person, then you should use your proclivities for what you want to attain, instead of 'fighting yourself'. Even though clairvoyance is really not about visualization, you can use it as a meditational tool. Here is an idea:
Before being in heavy trance, see the blobs in front of your eyes. See the colors as they shift and meld together. Isolate a color, say starting with red (base chakra.) Now, instead of visualizing, make the blob in your eyes become red. (you can do it, I do it when I meditate on chakras if my mind is extra-chattery). Then once you have a color, go to the next: orange, then yellow, then green, then blue, then purple, then white. When you get to white, then imagine 'nothingness'. Try to make everything dissappear and cultivate nothingness. This will make you use what you're naturally good at, without getting in the way of what you're trying to achieve, which is 'clearing'. So you'll see 'nothingness', and see where that takes you.
I hope this helps.

03-17-2008, 08:48 PM	#12
emorbimefed Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	Thanks for your reply, Aunt Clair. I've been working on this since my original post. I think one of my biggie problems is that I'm a very visually-oriented person, and I think that's working to my detriment with the OBE thing. I've been trying to gain astral sight by visualizing thru my closed eyes; I realized yesterday that that's all wrong. It's an entirely different part of the brain that needs to be engaged. I'm trying now to turn off all visual references while meditating, instead focusing on hearing, breathing, etc. I'm determined to do this thing, no matter how long it takes me Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome. I value everyone's input. Just one comment: If you're a visual person, then you should use your proclivities for what you want to attain, instead of 'fighting yourself'. Even though clairvoyance is really not about visualization, you can use it as a meditational tool. Here is an idea: Before being in heavy trance, see the blobs in front of your eyes. See the colors as they shift and meld together. Isolate a color, say starting with red (base chakra.) Now, instead of visualizing, make the blob in your eyes become red. (you can do it, I do it when I meditate on chakras if my mind is extra-chattery). Then once you have a color, go to the next: orange, then yellow, then green, then blue, then purple, then white. When you get to white, then imagine 'nothingness'. Try to make everything dissappear and cultivate nothingness. This will make you use what you're naturally good at, without getting in the way of what you're trying to achieve, which is 'clearing'. So you'll see 'nothingness', and see where that takes you. I hope this helps.
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