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**bettingonosports** · 02-25-2008, 09:16 PM

I've heared that OBE's become easier to achieve as one grows older, possibly due to the weakening of the hold on the astral double.

No, because there is no weakening of the astral double. The astral double is not like a puppet on a string, the astral double is an energetic manifestation of your energy structures which can hold a copy of your consciousness or point of view. So when you get older, at least in my experience, it is harder to maintain a hold on the conscious mind and it's easy to go off into a dream. That's why energy work is so important.
Has anyone found this to be true from personal experience? ie youve tried to get OBE for a long time but only succeded later on in life. What I do believe is that the more practice you get the more you can establish succesful projection techniques, and get to know what works for you, what types of trance you can get and what you can do with them. So what you lack in energy you make up in experience and expertise, if it can be called that. For example, I can now do many other things on the threshold of projection than before because I know what different states feel like, and I can induce some sort of altered state when I need to or want to. But the quality and verifiability of my RTZ experiences are not the same as when I was young. I just don't have the clarity of mind (or the 'gee whiz' factor, either) that I did when younger.

many thanks for any comments on this. You're welcome. Of course, this is just one opinion.

02-25-2008, 09:16 PM	#3
bettingonosports Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	I've heared that OBE's become easier to achieve as one grows older, possibly due to the weakening of the hold on the astral double. No, because there is no weakening of the astral double. The astral double is not like a puppet on a string, the astral double is an energetic manifestation of your energy structures which can hold a copy of your consciousness or point of view. So when you get older, at least in my experience, it is harder to maintain a hold on the conscious mind and it's easy to go off into a dream. That's why energy work is so important. Has anyone found this to be true from personal experience? ie youve tried to get OBE for a long time but only succeded later on in life. What I do believe is that the more practice you get the more you can establish succesful projection techniques, and get to know what works for you, what types of trance you can get and what you can do with them. So what you lack in energy you make up in experience and expertise, if it can be called that. For example, I can now do many other things on the threshold of projection than before because I know what different states feel like, and I can induce some sort of altered state when I need to or want to. But the quality and verifiability of my RTZ experiences are not the same as when I was young. I just don't have the clarity of mind (or the 'gee whiz' factor, either) that I did when younger. many thanks for any comments on this. You're welcome. Of course, this is just one opinion.
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