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**bettingonosports** · 02-26-2008, 12:54 AM

I would add that I think this is the reason many 'old fashioned shamanic experiences' involved physical exertion combined with fasting and lack of sleep; things like 'sweat lodges' and other initiatory rites. To induce just this type of experience.

When I was an older child (maybe 11 or 12) I had dengue fever, and the experience was just as the Pink Floyd song, only happier with butterflies.... but the 'hands swelled up like two balloons' was uncannily similar. (Maybe Roger Waters had dengue as a child also...

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02-26-2008, 12:54 AM	#3
bettingonosports Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	I would add that I think this is the reason many 'old fashioned shamanic experiences' involved physical exertion combined with fasting and lack of sleep; things like 'sweat lodges' and other initiatory rites. To induce just this type of experience. When I was an older child (maybe 11 or 12) I had dengue fever, and the experience was just as the Pink Floyd song, only happier with butterflies.... but the 'hands swelled up like two balloons' was uncannily similar. (Maybe Roger Waters had dengue as a child also... )
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