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**Imagimifouxum** · 01-18-2008, 02:36 AM

Spiritual way is a way to better work with our subconsciousness because of better state of consciousness and better life. Energetic system of body is something controlled by subconsciousness, but if we are improving our psychic abilities, we can work with similar systems consciously. After an AP your energetic system is mostly obviously working. Pain is only effect of wrong working with this systems - mostly it is concentrating consciousness to something too concretely, spiritual methods of working with psychic states is based on "abstract concentrating". It is something very easy. It became to people I know only once, after some time it spontaneously become better. Subconsciousness almost always make it better quickly and precisely, I think pain is something, what can happen only if you are beginning. I donÂ´t know how long you are interested in AP etc.

Ive been projecting years, but only last summer I realised the extent of what it was I was doing. I project about between 4 and 5 times a week, and have held it for seemed like 30 minutes.. the violence of my exit symptoms varies though, some weeks its a smooth ride, others its very violent.. and others I'm interrupted by um... how would I put it, hands that rub my face and neck, a person or er.. something that bites my neck and back or pokes at my stomach or it just grabs onto me and doesnt allow me to move around

The side throbbing is new though..

01-18-2008, 02:36 AM	#9
Imagimifouxum Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	Spiritual way is a way to better work with our subconsciousness because of better state of consciousness and better life. Energetic system of body is something controlled by subconsciousness, but if we are improving our psychic abilities, we can work with similar systems consciously. After an AP your energetic system is mostly obviously working. Pain is only effect of wrong working with this systems - mostly it is concentrating consciousness to something too concretely, spiritual methods of working with psychic states is based on "abstract concentrating". It is something very easy. It became to people I know only once, after some time it spontaneously become better. Subconsciousness almost always make it better quickly and precisely, I think pain is something, what can happen only if you are beginning. I donÂ´t know how long you are interested in AP etc. Ive been projecting years, but only last summer I realised the extent of what it was I was doing. I project about between 4 and 5 times a week, and have held it for seemed like 30 minutes.. the violence of my exit symptoms varies though, some weeks its a smooth ride, others its very violent.. and others I'm interrupted by um... how would I put it, hands that rub my face and neck, a person or er.. something that bites my neck and back or pokes at my stomach or it just grabs onto me and doesnt allow me to move around The side throbbing is new though..
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