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**DuePew** · 09-20-2007, 05:59 AM

Isn't it possible that while out of body, we are the ones who are creating the environment around us and it's not a physical one? If this holds true, then the mind/subconscious/soul/whatever creates the environment, may does so from the memories of current phyiscal surroundings, or past ones held in the projector's memory.

There's nothing wrong with this theory. Even with those of us who believe that OBE's are information-gathering from outside the body, still think that what we perceive is what we are giving shape to: In other words, the energy is there, we give it shape.

I know someone will come and mention reality fluctuations. But in my two short OOBEs and in most other people's (from the posts I read here), the reality around the projectos is mostly something different that the "real" one. So maybe we shouldn't talk about reality fluctuations, this may be the standard, while a reality identical to the one we experience in the waking life maybe is an exception! Yes, but the exception to what? Just because most people don't remember or can't prove that what they see is what is there in the physical, doesn't mean that this isn't happening, because every once in a while we get a validation that is not explainable by any other means than by having had an experience in which our point-of view received info not possible by any other way.
Of course this is all the humble opinion of someone *not* experienced in OOBEs, who just had two spontaneous ones that maybe even were not OOBEs. I'm just expressing my opinions. Just give yourself time. My validations came without my trying to get them, but some were unmistakeable.

09-20-2007, 05:59 AM	#4
DuePew Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	Isn't it possible that while out of body, we are the ones who are creating the environment around us and it's not a physical one? If this holds true, then the mind/subconscious/soul/whatever creates the environment, may does so from the memories of current phyiscal surroundings, or past ones held in the projector's memory. There's nothing wrong with this theory. Even with those of us who believe that OBE's are information-gathering from outside the body, still think that what we perceive is what we are giving shape to: In other words, the energy is there, we give it shape. I know someone will come and mention reality fluctuations. But in my two short OOBEs and in most other people's (from the posts I read here), the reality around the projectos is mostly something different that the "real" one. So maybe we shouldn't talk about reality fluctuations, this may be the standard, while a reality identical to the one we experience in the waking life maybe is an exception! Yes, but the exception to what? Just because most people don't remember or can't prove that what they see is what is there in the physical, doesn't mean that this isn't happening, because every once in a while we get a validation that is not explainable by any other means than by having had an experience in which our point-of view received info not possible by any other way. Of course this is all the humble opinion of someone not experienced in OOBEs, who just had two spontaneous ones that maybe even were not OOBEs. I'm just expressing my opinions. Just give yourself time. My validations came without my trying to get them, but some were unmistakeable.
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