There are types of lucid dreams where you are conscious the entire time as well. In fact, out of 4 types of lucid dreams, the ONLY type where you are not conscious the entire time is DILD - Dream Induced Lucid Dream. During a wake-initiated-lucid-dream you never lose consciousness. Both OBE and Lucid dreaming have the same concept- mind awake, body asleep, so there goes that argument..i tried that one already. Oh well. I guess for now, there's no way to prove it. I'm just sick of closed minded snide skeptic idiots.