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Can you prove OBEs exist?
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07-25-2007, 01:41 AM
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That makes sense...My only thing about the similarities is that the lucid dreamstate is built entirely off internal sensory brain functions. It is all in your head, and your subconscious uses
schemata
to build the world around you. Lucid dreams are build entirely from what you have seen or what you know, most of which is a subconscious process.
The concept of an OBE is that it is split control...most of which is internal sensory structure, but some of which is external, which means something is there, and your actual senses try to percieve what is happening. If a semi truck drives by, and you don't see it, you hear it, and may still be able to determine that a semi truck drove by. External events can still be percieved by the senses, and also by schemata. You only assume that it was a semi truck, because you have heard one before. Whether or not you made the conscious effort to remember what it sounds like, you remember, so that when you hear it again, there's an instant match.
Why am I rambling on about schemata? Because the dreamstate is based entirely on what your subconscious remembers. Said OBEs are supposedly composed of what you expect to see...the very concept of the role of schemata in the dreamstate. Therefore theoretically, no external sensory is needed to comprehend the theorized planes of existence, because they revolve around your thoughts...exactly like lucid dreams. Internal input of information and sensory. Now I have a very limited experience with OBEs, none of which have been to the astral plane, so until I have an OBE to the astral plane, I suppose my argument is partially flawed for now. Not that I want to argue against OBE, but I'm going to, so that you guys can prove me wrong, thus proving all the skeptics wrong.
We can do it
I really am starting to have my own questions about OBEs too. HOpefully this discussion will get rid of that.
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