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**gZAhTyWY** · 06-20-2007, 01:35 AM

Yours is a common problem Blade-X.

Yours is a type of situation in which one has to be VERY careful, and go back to the mindset that allowed the original OBEs in the first place, because what has happened is expressed clearly enough in your post:

"So I'm having a lot of trouble getting back to this "RTZ" - and am beginning to question weather or not it really exists other than inside of my mind, and the reason for this is, in the beginning, I really, really wanted to have OBEs. Now I almost really don't care if I have them or not anymore. So I could see my subconscious playing a part in granting me some experiences."

In OBE, consciousness and intent IS the foundation of your experience. This is not just a surface feature, but comes from what you REALLY want and believe, consciously and subconsciously. As such, we must be cognizant at all times of our consciousness and intention, and intentionally cultivate the consciousness conducive to what we want to experience.

Want to experience the RTZ again? Try this. Forget about the RTZ acting like physical reality. The RTZ is not physical reality. It is a shadow world that reflects physical reality, but viewed through astral sight. As such, there will be anomalies - but the instant you start to doubt that what you are seeing is real, that it is 'only' in your head, you begin to reinforce the gulf between OBE and actual RTZ projection.

You have to reverse the doubting mindset and find the mindset that allowed you to OBE to the RTZ in the first place. You have to cultivate the mindset for it. If you let doubt gnaw at you, it only gets stronger, reinforcing itself, which again only makes it stronger, again turning your consciousness away from the RTZ.

When you started to OBE, you say you had REALLY strong conscious intent to OBE. THis is what opened you to RTZ. Now, after some time has gone by, doubt has weakened your intent and your openness, so it is only natural you are experiencing the problems you are experiencing.

Meditate on this, and create some affirmations to cultivate the open mindset and strong intent again, and you will see a marked change in your experiences.

Good luck!

06-20-2007, 01:35 AM	#5
gZAhTyWY Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Yours is a common problem Blade-X. Yours is a type of situation in which one has to be VERY careful, and go back to the mindset that allowed the original OBEs in the first place, because what has happened is expressed clearly enough in your post: "So I'm having a lot of trouble getting back to this "RTZ" - and am beginning to question weather or not it really exists other than inside of my mind, and the reason for this is, in the beginning, I really, really wanted to have OBEs. Now I almost really don't care if I have them or not anymore. So I could see my subconscious playing a part in granting me some experiences." In OBE, consciousness and intent IS the foundation of your experience. This is not just a surface feature, but comes from what you REALLY want and believe, consciously and subconsciously. As such, we must be cognizant at all times of our consciousness and intention, and intentionally cultivate the consciousness conducive to what we want to experience. Want to experience the RTZ again? Try this. Forget about the RTZ acting like physical reality. The RTZ is not physical reality. It is a shadow world that reflects physical reality, but viewed through astral sight. As such, there will be anomalies - but the instant you start to doubt that what you are seeing is real, that it is 'only' in your head, you begin to reinforce the gulf between OBE and actual RTZ projection. You have to reverse the doubting mindset and find the mindset that allowed you to OBE to the RTZ in the first place. You have to cultivate the mindset for it. If you let doubt gnaw at you, it only gets stronger, reinforcing itself, which again only makes it stronger, again turning your consciousness away from the RTZ. When you started to OBE, you say you had REALLY strong conscious intent to OBE. THis is what opened you to RTZ. Now, after some time has gone by, doubt has weakened your intent and your openness, so it is only natural you are experiencing the problems you are experiencing. Meditate on this, and create some affirmations to cultivate the open mindset and strong intent again, and you will see a marked change in your experiences. Good luck!
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