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**ronaldasten** · 04-11-2007, 11:38 AM

Hello

Well it seems you have the problem i sometimes have when doing conciouse obe from the fully awake state, basically you need to tense and relax your muscles for longer, like spend 10-15 minutes tenseing and releaseing ur muscle groups, start from your feet upwards, i find when i dont do this and spend enough time on it and raising energy i dont obe or even get close, i just meditate, so spend time doing this and soon ull be up and about having some great adventures my friend goodluck!

Thanks

Joel

I see, I actually don't tense/relax any muscle, it comes naturally after some time(basically, when I find myself snoring

). Also, I do meditation while my body is relaxing itself. I also do energy work and generate more energy before this.

I hope to be able to obe soon, have alot of stuff to do

Thanks,
Bye.

04-11-2007, 11:38 AM	#5
ronaldasten Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 629 Senior Member	Hello Well it seems you have the problem i sometimes have when doing conciouse obe from the fully awake state, basically you need to tense and relax your muscles for longer, like spend 10-15 minutes tenseing and releaseing ur muscle groups, start from your feet upwards, i find when i dont do this and spend enough time on it and raising energy i dont obe or even get close, i just meditate, so spend time doing this and soon ull be up and about having some great adventures my friend goodluck! Thanks Joel I see, I actually don't tense/relax any muscle, it comes naturally after some time(basically, when I find myself snoring ). Also, I do meditation while my body is relaxing itself. I also do energy work and generate more energy before this. I hope to be able to obe soon, have alot of stuff to do Thanks, Bye.
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