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**russmodel** · 04-06-2007, 08:59 AM

I think traveler pretty much nailed that one. Is it possible to DREAM that you are having an OBE but you're really just dreaming it? Or is it like possible to OBE in a dream? I've been thinking about that, because a lot of people have been having experiences similar to hound's and mine and think about this.

Some people have dreams in which they dream. Anotherwords, they go to sleep for real and they start dreaming. Then they go to sleep in their dream and start to dream within the dream, and then they wake up, thinking that they are awake when really they just woke up to the original dream. So is it possible to fall asleep for real, and start dreaming, and then in your dream you OBE? and maybe the beings that hound saw were really created by the dream in combination with an OBE? maybe i sound really dumb right now. I hope this makes sense to you all. But the real kicker here also is, if it is possible to wake up inside a dream, how can we ever be sure that we are awake?

The answer is awareness. Whenever you can remeber to, say to yourself "I am aware". Most people note that their lives fly by because they are absent minded, and do most tasks on "autopilot". Have you ever methodically and automatically driven to your job, and when you got there, didn't remember the drive? it's like that. that is absence of mind. Just as in real life, during meditation and dreams we can get "caught up" with ourselves and become "aware" - the presence of mindness and consciousness. it's a bit hard to explain.

Basically I believe what you had was an OBE, but in case it happens again, if you are in the practice of being "aware" as much as possible, then you will be able to do the same in dreams, thus creating the effect of lucidity. If you become aware in a dream, you are lucid. Then you can run through your dream checklist. If you can make lasers shoot out of your eyes, you're either superman, or you're dreaming

. If you're dreaming, then you're probably not OBEing unless my theory has validity. So That would be one way to know if you are dreaming. Practice awareness. I hope that helps. Cheers!

04-06-2007, 08:59 AM	#5
russmodel Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	I think traveler pretty much nailed that one. Is it possible to DREAM that you are having an OBE but you're really just dreaming it? Or is it like possible to OBE in a dream? I've been thinking about that, because a lot of people have been having experiences similar to hound's and mine and think about this. Some people have dreams in which they dream. Anotherwords, they go to sleep for real and they start dreaming. Then they go to sleep in their dream and start to dream within the dream, and then they wake up, thinking that they are awake when really they just woke up to the original dream. So is it possible to fall asleep for real, and start dreaming, and then in your dream you OBE? and maybe the beings that hound saw were really created by the dream in combination with an OBE? maybe i sound really dumb right now. I hope this makes sense to you all. But the real kicker here also is, if it is possible to wake up inside a dream, how can we ever be sure that we are awake? The answer is awareness. Whenever you can remeber to, say to yourself "I am aware". Most people note that their lives fly by because they are absent minded, and do most tasks on "autopilot". Have you ever methodically and automatically driven to your job, and when you got there, didn't remember the drive? it's like that. that is absence of mind. Just as in real life, during meditation and dreams we can get "caught up" with ourselves and become "aware" - the presence of mindness and consciousness. it's a bit hard to explain. Basically I believe what you had was an OBE, but in case it happens again, if you are in the practice of being "aware" as much as possible, then you will be able to do the same in dreams, thus creating the effect of lucidity. If you become aware in a dream, you are lucid. Then you can run through your dream checklist. If you can make lasers shoot out of your eyes, you're either superman, or you're dreaming . If you're dreaming, then you're probably not OBEing unless my theory has validity. So That would be one way to know if you are dreaming. Practice awareness. I hope that helps. Cheers!
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