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**usaguedriedax** · 03-09-2007, 05:23 PM

I just assumed that any poster who mispells his own handle probably satisfies this definition of "journeyman:" def. "any sound, experienced, but not brilliant craftsman or performer (Webster New College Dictionary)." So I decided to keep it simple and provide you easily grasped discussions of ESP theories. Obviously, my post wasn't worded simply enough for you. You reply: "Given that xenoglossy is a made up word (it isn't in any dictionary to which I have access) it isn't really a wonder that I didn't know the church has restrictions on it."

Wow, someone ate his nasties today. Don't you find nastiness to be corrosive of the soul? Hardly a christian attribute at all.

As for 'assuming' things, perhaps you should read your own quote? Personally I'm not an ass, so that leaves only one target for the epithet.

Believe it or not, your intellect has failed you dismally - there is a perfectly valid reason for my avatar name. So, sorry, but you're wrong...

You pass yourself off as well read in parapsychology. Xenoglossy is the standard term in the fleld for the phenomenon of speaking an unlearned language, and yet, you were unaware of this.

I don't pass myself off as anything nor do I claim any particular knowledge. So you're wrong again... You are the one with the pseudo-intelectual attitude who fires back in anger when someone dares to question you.

You handle's implicatlon is confirmed by your simple-minded rejection of Heaney's book simply on the grounds that he us a Jesuit. In fact, contrary to your bigoted preconception, Heaney rejects the notion that "possession cases necessarily involve possession by Satan (p. 40)." Also silly is your trivialization of David Fontana's research on the grounds: "I can't find any evidence of his involvement in experimentation of things psi or psychic." In fact, Fontana has made "significant contributions" to parapsychology on "mediumship, both mental and physical, poltergeists and the Electronic Voice Phenomenon" (quoting Prof. Archie Roy). Among his many distinguished roles, Fontana is the past President and current Vice President of the Society for Psychical Research. He is an expert. You seem to rely on ad hominem attacks and crass assumptions to avoid the hard work of critical engagement.

You just can't help yourself can you? Such anger at being questioned betrays a very poor control of your emotions. You could have said all of this post without any of the trigger words but you chose not to. That says more about you than it says about me.

Again I point out that any statements by you that contradict the view that the things you were discussing are either faked or evil came AFTER I posted. It does you no good to point out how later posts prove me wrong - they didn't exist when you got so upset at having your dogma questioned.

And it is common among researchers who never go into the field to call each other by glowing terms; when I can't find evidence on the Net of someone actually doing the legwork of experimentation it is quite easy to view them as one who reads the information of those who DO go into the field. Having you claim they are good doesn't actually make them so. It simply means you think they agree with you therefore they must be good. Armchair researchers tend to back each other up whenever they can & rarely contribute anything to the advancement of knowledge - usually they are the roadblocks to it.

And among those who don't fall for the belief trap, it is quite common also to treat with suspicion any 'information' that comes from those who are not only 'believers' but who are within the hierarchy of the game. So I am unlikely to accept the claims of someone with a reason for telling a biased story unless I have substantive evidence to the contrary.

So lighten up & maybe go take a breath of fresh air & try to write some non-abusive posts. Your insecurities are showing.

03-09-2007, 05:23 PM	#12
usaguedriedax Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 596 Senior Member	I just assumed that any poster who mispells his own handle probably satisfies this definition of "journeyman:" def. "any sound, experienced, but not brilliant craftsman or performer (Webster New College Dictionary)." So I decided to keep it simple and provide you easily grasped discussions of ESP theories. Obviously, my post wasn't worded simply enough for you. You reply: "Given that xenoglossy is a made up word (it isn't in any dictionary to which I have access) it isn't really a wonder that I didn't know the church has restrictions on it." Wow, someone ate his nasties today. Don't you find nastiness to be corrosive of the soul? Hardly a christian attribute at all. As for 'assuming' things, perhaps you should read your own quote? Personally I'm not an ass, so that leaves only one target for the epithet. Believe it or not, your intellect has failed you dismally - there is a perfectly valid reason for my avatar name. So, sorry, but you're wrong... You pass yourself off as well read in parapsychology. Xenoglossy is the standard term in the fleld for the phenomenon of speaking an unlearned language, and yet, you were unaware of this. I don't pass myself off as anything nor do I claim any particular knowledge. So you're wrong again... You are the one with the pseudo-intelectual attitude who fires back in anger when someone dares to question you. You handle's implicatlon is confirmed by your simple-minded rejection of Heaney's book simply on the grounds that he us a Jesuit. In fact, contrary to your bigoted preconception, Heaney rejects the notion that "possession cases necessarily involve possession by Satan (p. 40)." Also silly is your trivialization of David Fontana's research on the grounds: "I can't find any evidence of his involvement in experimentation of things psi or psychic." In fact, Fontana has made "significant contributions" to parapsychology on "mediumship, both mental and physical, poltergeists and the Electronic Voice Phenomenon" (quoting Prof. Archie Roy). Among his many distinguished roles, Fontana is the past President and current Vice President of the Society for Psychical Research. He is an expert. You seem to rely on ad hominem attacks and crass assumptions to avoid the hard work of critical engagement. You just can't help yourself can you? Such anger at being questioned betrays a very poor control of your emotions. You could have said all of this post without any of the trigger words but you chose not to. That says more about you than it says about me. Again I point out that any statements by you that contradict the view that the things you were discussing are either faked or evil came AFTER I posted. It does you no good to point out how later posts prove me wrong - they didn't exist when you got so upset at having your dogma questioned. And it is common among researchers who never go into the field to call each other by glowing terms; when I can't find evidence on the Net of someone actually doing the legwork of experimentation it is quite easy to view them as one who reads the information of those who DO go into the field. Having you claim they are good doesn't actually make them so. It simply means you think they agree with you therefore they must be good. Armchair researchers tend to back each other up whenever they can & rarely contribute anything to the advancement of knowledge - usually they are the roadblocks to it. And among those who don't fall for the belief trap, it is quite common also to treat with suspicion any 'information' that comes from those who are not only 'believers' but who are within the hierarchy of the game. So I am unlikely to accept the claims of someone with a reason for telling a biased story unless I have substantive evidence to the contrary. So lighten up & maybe go take a breath of fresh air & try to write some non-abusive posts. Your insecurities are showing.
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