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**clorkergo** · 02-26-2006, 05:20 AM

with you spending so much time and energy attempting OBEs, how much time are you taking for preliminary energy work? It is very important to store the energy before attempting OBEs. I use Robert Bruce's NEW system for at least an hour each day and this generally results in me going from a lucid dream to an OBE about once a week (that should give you a rough estimate of how much energy I need for my dream and OBE work)... I may be wrong, but some of your "symptoms" may come from trying to run the engine while it is overheating and almost out of gas.

Also, being a Christian should have little impact on your path here. Christian mystics have for ages experienced mystical "visions," which were at least produced by astral sight if not full blown OBEs. Remember, early Christianity drew from many sources like the Greek Eleusinian mysteries, the Persian cult of Mithras, and the Hebrew Merkabah mysticism- all proponents of the soul leaving the body to merge with the godhead.

The mystery of Christ's life, death, and resurrection is not contrary to your explorations of the spiritual levels of existence: it is a symbolic revelation of the actual journey you are undertaking.

-Matthew

Thanks again, Matthew, I will read your reply again with thought, and look more into Christian mysticism as well. I've been shielded from being influenced by such knowledge, you know how that goes! And you probably understand how such knowledge can be perceived as a big threat to one's faith. This is why I question whether I should continue or give it up.

I'm beginning to realize what an important part the energy work plays with AP - and I understand what you're saying. I will read the NEW for beginners, I hope it will be sufficient training for now. I also downloaded the free EFT book and will study it as well. Someone posted the link (Thank

You -whoever did it!).

It's so easy to just want the results and skip the neccessary training...

I was just talking with my brother (problem drinker) and I'm wondering if there's anything I could do (at this point), other than praying and being there to listen...

02-26-2006, 05:20 AM	#8
clorkergo Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 473 Senior Member	with you spending so much time and energy attempting OBEs, how much time are you taking for preliminary energy work? It is very important to store the energy before attempting OBEs. I use Robert Bruce's NEW system for at least an hour each day and this generally results in me going from a lucid dream to an OBE about once a week (that should give you a rough estimate of how much energy I need for my dream and OBE work)... I may be wrong, but some of your "symptoms" may come from trying to run the engine while it is overheating and almost out of gas. Also, being a Christian should have little impact on your path here. Christian mystics have for ages experienced mystical "visions," which were at least produced by astral sight if not full blown OBEs. Remember, early Christianity drew from many sources like the Greek Eleusinian mysteries, the Persian cult of Mithras, and the Hebrew Merkabah mysticism- all proponents of the soul leaving the body to merge with the godhead. The mystery of Christ's life, death, and resurrection is not contrary to your explorations of the spiritual levels of existence: it is a symbolic revelation of the actual journey you are undertaking. -Matthew Thanks again, Matthew, I will read your reply again with thought, and look more into Christian mysticism as well. I've been shielded from being influenced by such knowledge, you know how that goes! And you probably understand how such knowledge can be perceived as a big threat to one's faith. This is why I question whether I should continue or give it up. I'm beginning to realize what an important part the energy work plays with AP - and I understand what you're saying. I will read the NEW for beginners, I hope it will be sufficient training for now. I also downloaded the free EFT book and will study it as well. Someone posted the link (ThankYou -whoever did it!). It's so easy to just want the results and skip the neccessary training... I was just talking with my brother (problem drinker) and I'm wondering if there's anything I could do (at this point), other than praying and being there to listen...
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