Hi again, Lonecrow. Why not ask RB where his other natural talents lie? I wonder if there's any evidence Robert Monroe was good at visualisation? It's been a while since I read any of his stuff. I have a vague notion he was good enough at technical drawing to design the building at his institue. There are others too, with websites where you could possibly leave messages and find out (like Kurt Leland- musician, or Bruce Mohen-engineer- or William Buhlman-can't remember). I suspect Leonardo Da Vinci was good at the OBE. What a visionary and talent!