[Blolover11]

hey there kiwi, here's something to try (minus the seemingly omnipresent need for controlling topics not created by me):

try crossing your eyes, right now. tension grows in the middle of your forehead and around your brows. this is precisely what i use to help with my sight. i also concentrate hardly on my being awake. often times my mind will wander, but i continually cross my eyes under my eyelids until the tension still exists without me crossing them.

it was odd actually, tonight i was napping with my girl and there was an incredible amount of lightning and rain outside. i found a comfortable position and closed my eyelids. i then did the cross-practice again and suddenly found myself looking at katie (the girl), and her looking at me.

it was very very interesting. thunder and the soft sound of rain is what held my consciousness open. a consistent disturbing yet soft (unlike the regular alarms that frighten me into being awake) sound with light and gentle flashes kept me conscious yet still sleeping.

i hope this helped! just an experience i had tonight on the subject.

-chris
EDIT chris said: (minus the seemingly omnipresent need for controlling topics not created by me): Ummm...I hope you were talking about yourself and not someone else. Sarcastic remarks about others is not allowed in any of these forums. If you were referring to yourself, that's perfectly fine, and I apologize for butting in. Please clarify. Painterhypnogirl