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**dexterljohnthefinanceguy** · 05-02-2006, 12:28 PM

From that chart that Matt Provided from that excellent website, I've come to the conclusion I reach light to moderate relaxation. SOMETIMES if I'm lucky I reach heavy relaxation while staying awake.

My trouble then is getting to the point I am in a heavy relaxed state and NOT falling asleep.

Does the saltcube timer really work for that?

My approach for using the time is to go ahead and fall asleep and then let the timer wake me up. It's then by staying perfectly still that you can watch your body fall back to sleep. That can take several tries, but that's ok since the timer will beep again after a few minutes. It's just a matter of hovering there and sometimes when the timer beeps your body doesn't wake up at all and you're already in paralysis.

Here's the latest and greatest way I've found to go from paralysis to an OBE. You have to be in very deep paralysis for it to work the best, you open your mouth slowly and breathe deeply. So far when I've done that's it's started the separtion process as soon as my mouth opened. Here's a journal entry on it:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... jsp?t=9998

Good luck!

05-02-2006, 12:28 PM	#9
dexterljohnthefinanceguy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 626 Senior Member	From that chart that Matt Provided from that excellent website, I've come to the conclusion I reach light to moderate relaxation. SOMETIMES if I'm lucky I reach heavy relaxation while staying awake. My trouble then is getting to the point I am in a heavy relaxed state and NOT falling asleep. Does the saltcube timer really work for that? My approach for using the time is to go ahead and fall asleep and then let the timer wake me up. It's then by staying perfectly still that you can watch your body fall back to sleep. That can take several tries, but that's ok since the timer will beep again after a few minutes. It's just a matter of hovering there and sometimes when the timer beeps your body doesn't wake up at all and you're already in paralysis. Here's the latest and greatest way I've found to go from paralysis to an OBE. You have to be in very deep paralysis for it to work the best, you open your mouth slowly and breathe deeply. So far when I've done that's it's started the separtion process as soon as my mouth opened. Here's a journal entry on it: http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/cha ... jsp?t=9998 Good luck!
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