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Old 03-30-2006, 08:21 AM   #12
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well the vatican has begun a program to reintroduce exorcisms back into practice,
It was never removed . In 1999 it was modified .
http://www.trosch.org/chu/exorcism.htm
Catholic World News – January 1999
VATICAN RELEASES NEW RITE FOR EXORCISM (CWNews.com) -- The Devil exists. That unpopular reality is brought into sharp focus by the promulgation of a new rite of exorcism for the Catholic Church.
De Exorcismus et supplicationibus quibusdam, approved by Pope John Paul II on October 1, 1998, was formally released by the Vatican on January 26. The document sets out a new and precise liturgical form for the rite of exorcism. The 84-page form, introduced by the Congregation Divine Worship, was published entirely in Latin; the episcopal conferences of different nations may now prepare their own versions in the vernacular languages.
This new Vatican document clearly recognizes both the existence of the Devil and the reality of diabolical possession. In a short introduction, the document calls attention to the existence of both "angelic creatures" and others "called demons, who are opposed to God." Since the influence of the demonic can become apparent in people, places, or things, the document continues, the Church "has prayed, and continues to pray, that men will be freed from the snares of the Devil." http://www.trosch.org/chu/exorcism.htm#person
But the real exorcisms are not just words upon paper . A specially trained exorcist comes from the Vatican . One applys to their Bishop who consults with the Archbishop who may choose to apply to the vatican for an exorcism mass . This is not often allowed .
http://religion-cults.com/deliverance/exorcism.htm
http://www.stmichael.pair.com/ritualofexorcism.htm
but i'm curious...at the church you go to they follow the original latin mass??? or the novus ordo mass? does the priest face god during mass, or face the people? just interested, and if not...have you ever witnessed the latin mass and noticed any difference?!? Priests here in Australia face the host and the congregation . The host is visible on the altar between us before it is held high .In the USA I belonged to a radical charismatic Catholic parish that had a Latin Mass and offered up healing through energy . Even they refused help when I tried to cleanse a home infested with dark gargoyles. I then learned that some priests do not believe in angels , demons or God as I do either . I also attended Mass on occasion at St. Matthew's Cathedral where mass was offered in Latin , Spanish , English and on rare occasion Greek . I loved the Gregorian Chants . But here in Australia ,at least in my parish of Perth , they make us take the eucharist into our own hands , they do not kneel until the celebrant sits . . Priests will not let the host be conferred to the lips and tongue and they consider Latin mass heresy . Here they sit down and chat after getting the host and some leave the mass so that the priest must remind them to wait. Aussies wear tshirts and flip flops to mass . I do love it here but it is a bit of a culture shock .

Irregardless, I have seen Angels of the Host and the deceased Spirits of Priests and Bishops concelebrating the mass . I have seen saints appear during mass at many of the churches here in Perth which I have had the pleasure to attend Mass . It is sad that they do not realise they have evoked these spirits by calling their presence and that they do not attempt to communicate with them because they have no awareness of the power of the mass to do such deeds.

I am clairsentient , clairvoyant and clairaudient . When I partake of the Eucharist , I know the difference . I feel the mystical union . I feel the energy come in me and over me . I feel our energy bodies facilitate the
Eucharist and that it is not the sole responsiblity of the priest to perform the union with the mystical Christ with us at Mass . It is more than faith we require to become in union with the energy of the Christ . We have to lift our own vibration .

I do feel that these are real priests but I am sad that they are not mystic priests. Still I feel that Catholicism is the most mystical of all Christian religions and that even seeing spirit is suspect and heretical in most Protestant Christian religions. Catholicism acknowledges the works of mystic visionaries but through the ages they have either revered them as saints or slaughtered them without mercy . The whim of this honour or abuse is not always evident to the mystic so Jacques de Molay and Joad D'arc were immolated but Teresa d'Avila was spared .

No church on this earth is perfect but this is not a reason to disavow religion or faith . Not one of us is perfect either . Any temple or church is an institution made by humans. It is the dissemination of esoteric wisdoms and protections through the rituals of the religions that is precious and invaluable . It is the uplifting faith and the instructions to be more noble that we should cling to . And like anything else on this planet it is the lies or untruths that we should discern and disavow .
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