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**desmond001** · 04-18-2006, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by obe1990 Have you considered that these are all dreams??

Dreams and OBEs are when a person focuses into a nonphysical environment to the point that they are immersed in it. Dreams are OBEs but the dreamer isn't aware that they're dreaming. If in a dream they recall they are dreaming and recall that their physical body is in bed then it's a lucid dream/OBE. Which is why I would ask: Do you consider that technically OB and Astral Projection (that is, directly into the astral without leaving your body) to be the same thing? Because I would classify it as an Astral Projection, for the sole reason that you could open doors (interact with your environment), something that is usually not done in an RTZ OB. (Which is why you can go through walls, etc.) So I vote for inwards astral projection, not RTZ OB.
I know, just being nit-picky.

04-18-2006, 08:53 PM	#10
desmond001 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	Originally Posted by obe1990 Have you considered that these are all dreams?? Dreams and OBEs are when a person focuses into a nonphysical environment to the point that they are immersed in it. Dreams are OBEs but the dreamer isn't aware that they're dreaming. If in a dream they recall they are dreaming and recall that their physical body is in bed then it's a lucid dream/OBE. Which is why I would ask: Do you consider that technically OB and Astral Projection (that is, directly into the astral without leaving your body) to be the same thing? Because I would classify it as an Astral Projection, for the sole reason that you could open doors (interact with your environment), something that is usually not done in an RTZ OB. (Which is why you can go through walls, etc.) So I vote for inwards astral projection, not RTZ OB. I know, just being nit-picky.
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