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**dexterljohnthefinanceguy** · 04-18-2006, 10:38 PM

i disagree. for me there is one main diffrence between OBEs and lucid dreams and i use it as the only method to know if im actually having an OBE or just a dream:

Before i leave the body there are exit sensetaions. exit sensations are always the same for me and are a reliable way of knowing if im out. if i dont experience exit sensations then its a dream.

Exit sensations are not very reliable because it's possible to have an OBE into the RTZ with no exit sensations. You might get up from bed exactly as you normally would and be absolutely sure you're back in the physical until you walk around your house and find a room that isn't supposed to be there. This is called a false awakening and can be very confusing.

I use a timer to alternately wake up and fall asleep in the morning in order to have OBEs. If I put the timer on a short setting, say beeping every two minutes for a half hour, it can put me in a state where I'm hovering very closely between the physical and nonphysical. This makes false awakenings a lot more likely.

It's possible in that state to get into a false awakening loop where you keep 'waking up' into the RTZ and don't know where you are until you go around and check.

The most reliable (not 100%) reality check I know is to look at a digital readout like on a timer or a computer. Almost always in the RTZ there will be something screwy about it. Such as on a computer screen it will be flipped left and right, or the time might look really complex like a jet cockpit.

04-18-2006, 10:38 PM	#12
dexterljohnthefinanceguy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 626 Senior Member	i disagree. for me there is one main diffrence between OBEs and lucid dreams and i use it as the only method to know if im actually having an OBE or just a dream: Before i leave the body there are exit sensetaions. exit sensations are always the same for me and are a reliable way of knowing if im out. if i dont experience exit sensations then its a dream. Exit sensations are not very reliable because it's possible to have an OBE into the RTZ with no exit sensations. You might get up from bed exactly as you normally would and be absolutely sure you're back in the physical until you walk around your house and find a room that isn't supposed to be there. This is called a false awakening and can be very confusing. I use a timer to alternately wake up and fall asleep in the morning in order to have OBEs. If I put the timer on a short setting, say beeping every two minutes for a half hour, it can put me in a state where I'm hovering very closely between the physical and nonphysical. This makes false awakenings a lot more likely. It's possible in that state to get into a false awakening loop where you keep 'waking up' into the RTZ and don't know where you are until you go around and check. The most reliable (not 100%) reality check I know is to look at a digital readout like on a timer or a computer. Almost always in the RTZ there will be something screwy about it. Such as on a computer screen it will be flipped left and right, or the time might look really complex like a jet cockpit.
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