[awagsFare]

Since this forum is peppered with OBE journal threads, I'll use this as my own for now. By the way, I appreciate the comments from both jalef and Beekeeper. Thank you for your insight thus far.

On with today's post.

(Note: what I'm truly interested in is hearing feedback and postulation on this morning's experience, detailed at the bottom of the thread.)

The day after the "low energy RTZ OBE" (thanks, BK), I used the same saltcube timer process to induce another experience, of which I'm positive occurred in real time and was not a dream.

I saw nothing but blackness the entire time -- literally a few seconds -- but I was aware of my position in space as hovering off to the side of my bed and about a foot below my physical body.

As I floated down to the floor, my mind's voice demanded "Astral Sight NOW!" and "Clarity NOW!" to no avail, and then I was intensely aware of my naked back (specifically, the area surrounding my left shoulder blade) smacking into the hardwood floor of my bedroom, after which I woke up.

Today's experience:

During meditation just before sleep last night, I kept feeling my arms, wrists and feet occasionally twitch, and after reading some of the horror stories about "puppetry" in the Psychic Self-Defense forum (a practice which I have officially given up, as in my opinion it causes more harm and invites a sort of metaphysical hypochondria, which fuels fear and probably invites negative influences in a self-fulfilling prophecy), I spent the night in a state where my fear grappled with my willpower's overpowering desire to overcome it.

It may be relevent to the following, it may not. I appreciate any and all insight anyone can give.

Again, using the saltcube timer, I attempted OBE induction. After many awakenings, my experience began with vivid tactile sensations. My eyes were open and the sun was streaming in, and the earbuds I wear to bed were draped across my chest. Instead of the two, one left and one right, there were three, and they were wriggling around like angry snakes, or livewires. They were smacking me in the face, and from them I could hear the voice of Hashmeer Shashmeer, frontman for Arabian Rap Group X. (Yes, I am a fan. For those of you unfamiliar, you can go to Flash video repositories like ebaumsworld.com and watch some of their music videos like "Bang Bang Bang" and "Schfifty-Five.") Hashmeer, in his traditionally offensive, condescending pseudo-Arabic tone, tossed some insults my way.

A moment later I woke up with the earbuds still in place inside my ears.

So, I've read about the cold, damp hands as a common sort of pre-OBE distraction, in addition to the visible "dweller" and the sounds. Has anyone had experiences with such intrusive tactile, auditory and visual distractions like this? I'm sure further experience will allow me to condition myself to fall deeper into myself to ignore the stimulation, but I'm curious what others have to say.

Best,

Vic