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**eropiereetuekm** · 04-13-2006, 05:44 PM

Hello Aunt Clair,

no, I cannot see and relationship either, lol.

I do not see how Babylon in the scripture can refer to "confuse", either. In the OT Babylon is also called "virgin daughter", just as Jerusalem (literally "City of Peace"). IMO these two describe two places or spiritual states and I do not see how "confusion" can be a virgin daughter to begin with. Also John (Revelation) describes *surprise* when seeing the whore Babylon, and I do not think there would have been any surprise if it was confusion on the mountain, right? Thus I take "Gate of God" as the correct translation of Babylon.

"Forethought. (She is also referred to as Ennoia, intention) The Barbelo is the first thought (ennoia), or emanation of the Supreme being in Gnostic creation stories, the mother of the Aeons."

Yes, this makes sense to me. Judas recognized Jesus as Son of God being the first intention. The "descending one" (avatar) always has divine intention and divine will, IMO.

Well, personally I do not understand how Judas could have seen this without being in Barbelo himself.

The "mother-father" is also a state of Clear Light (voidness) mentioned in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, btw. This is when you recognize the female (shakti/energy) and male (Atman/bliss/consciousness) as undivideable.

04-13-2006, 05:44 PM	#15
eropiereetuekm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	Hello Aunt Clair, no, I cannot see and relationship either, lol. I do not see how Babylon in the scripture can refer to "confuse", either. In the OT Babylon is also called "virgin daughter", just as Jerusalem (literally "City of Peace"). IMO these two describe two places or spiritual states and I do not see how "confusion" can be a virgin daughter to begin with. Also John (Revelation) describes surprise when seeing the whore Babylon, and I do not think there would have been any surprise if it was confusion on the mountain, right? Thus I take "Gate of God" as the correct translation of Babylon. "Forethought. (She is also referred to as Ennoia, intention) The Barbelo is the first thought (ennoia), or emanation of the Supreme being in Gnostic creation stories, the mother of the Aeons." Yes, this makes sense to me. Judas recognized Jesus as Son of God being the first intention. The "descending one" (avatar) always has divine intention and divine will, IMO. Well, personally I do not understand how Judas could have seen this without being in Barbelo himself. The "mother-father" is also a state of Clear Light (voidness) mentioned in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, btw. This is when you recognize the female (shakti/energy) and male (Atman/bliss/consciousness) as undivideable.
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