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01-10-2006, 09:57 PM
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tigoCeree
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Ah, lol, might become an astral fight by accident otherwise I take it
What did the devil look like to you ?
Erm, all light, lol. Seriously, makes no sense to anyone till now. I posted my dream on the beliefnet dream forum and several people said my dream makes no sense - not even methaphorically. But due to the telepatic communication it might have been an OBE anyway. Maybe you can make sense of it.
I dreamed I went downwards, it was no staircase or flying, just a downward movement. Then I came to a kind of wall or curtain and even though not looking behind it I was aware that it was dark behind that curtain see now this is an archetype dream like the wizard of oz being seen by dorothy behind the curtain and discovering he was not who she thought he was afterall .
and there were two shapes. I heard them talk (but it was without a language, more like a telepathic/emphatic communication) and was suddenly sure that one shape was the ultimate evil. "Oh, no", I thought, "this stupid fundamentalistic devil is real after all" and I was terrified. I heard "the minion" saying to the devil "all is ready, master" and the devil answered "it shall begin". I was so terrified I fled as fast as I could and started to wake up. In my alchemy circle we all had similar dreams i feel they come to the aspirant sometime along each one's path . It is when we have to decide light or dark for some of us and for others when we have to decide and declare that we will love and serve God and humanity .
In the waking up process I got lucid. When I know that I am in a dream I am absolutely sure that nothing can hurt me so I tried to turn around and face the devil. I wanted to know what part of me he was and what it means "it shall begin" and I wanted to give him a sound headbashing for scaring me like that in the first place. That is also about confronting the demon within and realising that evil is not attractive to you and that it needs to be destroyed by you too .
But when I turned around the curtain lifted and we faced each other. The darkness was gone, it (he) was all bright light and I knew somehow that he recognized me (that empathy thingy again) and that he was surprised to see me, as if I was where I was not supposed to be. Perhaps this could mean that you yourself were also surprised at your change of heart from flight to confrontation .
I tried to hold on to this dream as strong as I could but I was already aware of my bed. Then the devil "said" slightly amused "you are too fast, too early". Then I fully woke up. I tried to get back to the dream but it didn't work. Perhaps this means that you must slow down and consider well to think more clearly but I feel this is all a classic dream and a sort of Freudian one but also a real spiritual visit to the Devil .
Does not sound like "the Abyss" after all, right? But you are the first to point out the possiblity of the devil becoming light??? not really did you read the Pistia Sophia that is 2000 years old now .
In it Christ says that Lucifer is him and Satan is Lucifer . That is confusing but I think he means that both of them are instruments of the rising light to bring humanity back to the path of righteousness . I believe demons are evil by definition and to be avoided and that they harm us horribly in the worse place in our soul more precious than our body . I just feel that the Jewish idea that Satan is the chief prosecutor obedient to God and part of the Lucifer plan is right and that the Post Christ offering that Satan is responsible for the darkness is wrong . WE are responsible for the darkness the evil in us and the demons around us . Not Satan he is the
Guardian of the lower plane called Hells by some and he is not a fallen angel but a strong archangel who is obedient to God . So now I will change the way I pray . I do not worship him he is not God . I just respect his love of God and the job he does . And I will continue to loath the demons inside of us and outside of us . They seek our ruin not Satan . He is the merciless punisher though and the deciever and the tempter but like all things he is made by God .
I might add that this was a very intense dream or whatever it was. Not the fractured crab I usually dream. Also the bi-location at the end (one in the bed and one still there facing the devil) made me wonder until I read about the mind-split. That is further proof that this was a spiritual journey a self examination and a confrontation of evil and a testing of your soul by you and by God to see who you are obedient to . I suggest to you that if you said you worshipped him he would punish you . If you said what will you give me for following you he would condemn you and punish you severely .
Congratulations on making the right choice on which side to be on
and for being brave in the face of evil .
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