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**Shemker394** · 11-12-2005, 08:00 AM

Hi edubz, Matt, knightlight..!
My sincere advice is manage your mind in a more strictly way (avoiding any imagery arising from your desires), because of sure you're in a mistake. At APing we cannot interact with physical matter as easy as when we are inside our physical body.

In rigourously controlled experiments, with camcorder register, and a pair of chronometers, I've concluded that (when APing) physical matter doesn't able of to be controlled, except at Lucid Dream status projection. The last status is done when manage my astral sensorial perception in order to perceive myself (my entire body, as a matter of fact) as sensorial perceptible as in physical status and opening a port.

My experiment was as follows:

1 - I turn ON a camcorder SONY (Model, he he, I don't remember now... apologies..!)

2 - Under adequate light conditions, I focus camcorder onto a port of a room.

3 - I left 2 chronometers synchronized. The two started at the same time and inside line view, the first from camcorder, the second from the viewpoint of anyperson how moves the port.

4 - I left port semi-closed (semi-open). That's say about 45 degrees.

5 - I go to my bed and proceed in order to APing.

6 - I go to selected experiment room when outside of my body.

7 - I try to open the port putting extreme attention about not to fall in a Lucid Dream pool. I take note about my unability of to change port position.

8 - I manage my mind in order to create a replica of mine as I am when at physical body. By this way, I can see an arm, a forearm and a hand.

9 - I exert action onto port moving it, SUCCESFULLY..!! , and assuring displacement is physically detectable. That's say I successfully move the port, at least 30 degrees (not 0.001 degrees, a visually undetectable change in angular position of port), during (from initial time of moving to last time of moving) 3 seconds (not during 0.01 second, an interval below 1/30 second of camcorder frame shot).

10 - Back in my physical body, I shut OFF camcorder. Rewind tape and Play tape.

11 - Observations: During the entire experiment time interval, port doesn't change its position.

12 - Conclusion: I've of sure falled on a LD pool when I manage my mind in order to create a replica of mine. Only, in such condition, I was successfull at the endeavour of to move a physical object. It succeed but only in my mind. Anyway, there are the probability of some experimental conception failure. My sincere suggestion is you try to follow similar path under rigorous conditions stated here and look in order to register what happens.
Good luck..!!

My best regards...
Sincerely,
Natalia Parker

Hi, I think you mis understood me. What I said I open the door and it was solid, I didnt mean it moved in our 3-d reality. What I meant was, while OBE I had to open the door with my hands to get out of my room.

11-12-2005, 08:00 AM	#2
Shemker394 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	Hi edubz, Matt, knightlight..! My sincere advice is manage your mind in a more strictly way (avoiding any imagery arising from your desires), because of sure you're in a mistake. At APing we cannot interact with physical matter as easy as when we are inside our physical body. In rigourously controlled experiments, with camcorder register, and a pair of chronometers, I've concluded that (when APing) physical matter doesn't able of to be controlled, except at Lucid Dream status projection. The last status is done when manage my astral sensorial perception in order to perceive myself (my entire body, as a matter of fact) as sensorial perceptible as in physical status and opening a port. My experiment was as follows: 1 - I turn ON a camcorder SONY (Model, he he, I don't remember now... apologies..!) 2 - Under adequate light conditions, I focus camcorder onto a port of a room. 3 - I left 2 chronometers synchronized. The two started at the same time and inside line view, the first from camcorder, the second from the viewpoint of anyperson how moves the port. 4 - I left port semi-closed (semi-open). That's say about 45 degrees. 5 - I go to my bed and proceed in order to APing. 6 - I go to selected experiment room when outside of my body. 7 - I try to open the port putting extreme attention about not to fall in a Lucid Dream pool. I take note about my unability of to change port position. 8 - I manage my mind in order to create a replica of mine as I am when at physical body. By this way, I can see an arm, a forearm and a hand. 9 - I exert action onto port moving it, SUCCESFULLY..!! , and assuring displacement is physically detectable. That's say I successfully move the port, at least 30 degrees (not 0.001 degrees, a visually undetectable change in angular position of port), during (from initial time of moving to last time of moving) 3 seconds (not during 0.01 second, an interval below 1/30 second of camcorder frame shot). 10 - Back in my physical body, I shut OFF camcorder. Rewind tape and Play tape. 11 - Observations: During the entire experiment time interval, port doesn't change its position. 12 - Conclusion: I've of sure falled on a LD pool when I manage my mind in order to create a replica of mine. Only, in such condition, I was successfull at the endeavour of to move a physical object. It succeed but only in my mind. Anyway, there are the probability of some experimental conception failure. My sincere suggestion is you try to follow similar path under rigorous conditions stated here and look in order to register what happens. Good luck..!! My best regards... Sincerely, Natalia Parker Hi, I think you mis understood me. What I said I open the door and it was solid, I didnt mean it moved in our 3-d reality. What I meant was, while OBE I had to open the door with my hands to get out of my room.
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