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**Phassetus** · 03-11-2009, 03:15 AM

Pichardo - have you ever had to experience the misery and nonsense of hiring Dominicans in the construction industry? Maybe you have and you had success or maybe your standards of what is acceptable are slightly lower than mine.
I have renovated some hotels in the DR and constructed more than 100 individual projects across this Island on both sides of the border. In the DR I gave up on hiring Dominicans because they excelled at being late, stealing tools and material, requesting advances on salary, bringing their personal problems to work, arguing about why they don't have to do the tougher tasks (let the Haitiano do that) and they are magical because they Disappear for days just after being paid. WTF is what I said to myself when the Haitian workers turned up on time, worked hard, used initiative and had an excellent attitude. I paid double the minimum salary based on attitude and performance and not on the color of skin or nationality and when it came to analyzing the salary for the Dominican workers it was a case of the attitude and performance being so pathetic I should have been receiving an allowance from the IMF, World Bank or some NGO's for employing nit wits & cretains. So I did what any business person does and adapted to reduce my problems, expenses and improve productivity I hired the best workers that were available. They just happened to be Haitians. WTF?????? So to the original poster - stick to your plan and don't let irrational people like Pichardo effect your project. If you follow Pichardo's line of thinking and hire his mates, Your road will be 15% shorter (theft of material), 50% over budget (inefficiencies and bribes) and headed in the wrong direction because the Foreman will want to pass the road by his girlfriends house. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

The comments about the Dominican workers could be applied to some areas of work in the US, like construction. I have been fortunate to have had the opportunity to do a lot of manual labor and all these things I have seen before in the States. However, once I became a professional, it became less. It is common for most menial laborers to have attitudes and work habits such as these, probably even more so in the tourist areas where easy money is to be had.

An example of a good Dominican worker is my maestro friend Angel. He works every day of the week, and does manual labor even though all maestro's won't do that and travels to wherever he needs to go to do the work - even Haiti. Most of the time he ends up sleeping on the floor on a bedmat without power for the duration of the project. I have never seen him complain. He is also honest and was raised like I was; to expect life not to be easy, to work hard and do things the right way. While it may be difficult to find menial laborers with good work ethics, it shouldn't be that difficult to find maestro's in the construction industry like Angel, as they don't have regular jobs and jump at the opportunity to have work when there is little out there. Also, any good maestro will have a pool of laborers, Dominican and Haitian, who will do good work without a lot of fuss.

03-11-2009, 03:15 AM	#15
Phassetus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Pichardo - have you ever had to experience the misery and nonsense of hiring Dominicans in the construction industry? Maybe you have and you had success or maybe your standards of what is acceptable are slightly lower than mine. I have renovated some hotels in the DR and constructed more than 100 individual projects across this Island on both sides of the border. In the DR I gave up on hiring Dominicans because they excelled at being late, stealing tools and material, requesting advances on salary, bringing their personal problems to work, arguing about why they don't have to do the tougher tasks (let the Haitiano do that) and they are magical because they Disappear for days just after being paid. WTF is what I said to myself when the Haitian workers turned up on time, worked hard, used initiative and had an excellent attitude. I paid double the minimum salary based on attitude and performance and not on the color of skin or nationality and when it came to analyzing the salary for the Dominican workers it was a case of the attitude and performance being so pathetic I should have been receiving an allowance from the IMF, World Bank or some NGO's for employing nit wits & cretains. So I did what any business person does and adapted to reduce my problems, expenses and improve productivity I hired the best workers that were available. They just happened to be Haitians. WTF?????? So to the original poster - stick to your plan and don't let irrational people like Pichardo effect your project. If you follow Pichardo's line of thinking and hire his mates, Your road will be 15% shorter (theft of material), 50% over budget (inefficiencies and bribes) and headed in the wrong direction because the Foreman will want to pass the road by his girlfriends house. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! The comments about the Dominican workers could be applied to some areas of work in the US, like construction. I have been fortunate to have had the opportunity to do a lot of manual labor and all these things I have seen before in the States. However, once I became a professional, it became less. It is common for most menial laborers to have attitudes and work habits such as these, probably even more so in the tourist areas where easy money is to be had. An example of a good Dominican worker is my maestro friend Angel. He works every day of the week, and does manual labor even though all maestro's won't do that and travels to wherever he needs to go to do the work - even Haiti. Most of the time he ends up sleeping on the floor on a bedmat without power for the duration of the project. I have never seen him complain. He is also honest and was raised like I was; to expect life not to be easy, to work hard and do things the right way. While it may be difficult to find menial laborers with good work ethics, it shouldn't be that difficult to find maestro's in the construction industry like Angel, as they don't have regular jobs and jump at the opportunity to have work when there is little out there. Also, any good maestro will have a pool of laborers, Dominican and Haitian, who will do good work without a lot of fuss.
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