Cut the crap lady. You have no clue about my way of thinking on women. I deal on a daily basis with highly educated women. You are trying to cloud the point here lady. Your friend "Moon" is a hypocrite. After a couple of months of being dormant she kicked up the Love-Scent bashing thread on Harris's forum. There was no need for that. Many of us read as many phero sites as possible. What she is doing is not good for anyone involved. I enjoy reading everyone's point of view on the use of pheromnes, but when members of another place take an eliteist attitude and attribute to others their own behavior, than I call it as I see it. No one on any pheromone site has a momopoly on Pheromone useage and knowledge. I have used pheromones and related products for over 25 years, so I have a pretty good idea of what is what. Contrary to popular belief around these parts, pheromones are of major intrest to the authentic bio-science community. The people with no dog in the business side of the hunt are able to see things in alot more realistic and objective manner. I have used many of the products that Boyd sells as well as many that Harris sells. And many others. I have loyalty to what works for me. So before you come over here and make your silly little judgements take the plank out of your own eyes before you try to detect a speck in others. And Mobley I don't need a friggin hug. Why don't you look at things through a more realistic prism.