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**HcMkOKiz** · 12-13-2005, 04:29 PM

Tim,

I have three daughters

and no sons so my daughters got to do a lot of the things a dad would normaly do with a son. All three can shoot a

pistol or a rifle competently, among a number of other skills not normally associated with girls. They are all fine

shots with either and were very easy to train. All of them are invited to the range whenever I go and often go with

me. I've been handling firearms since I was a young child and remember clearly the lessons taught me about gun

safety. My family didn't tolerate stupid actions around guns. The lessons may have been abrupt but weren't often

forgotten.

Texas concealed carry requires 10-15 hours classroom time plus range qualifying. The primary focus of

the classroom time is on non-violent conflict resolution, your responsibility and the law rather than on combat

skills. Then every year continuing ed and re-qualifying. I was seriously surprised to discover that they won't even

send you the application until they've done a premilinary background check. In the end, there are a lot of

concealed carry licenses issued in this state but, to date, there have been very few crimes commited with a legally

carried concealed weapon.

A.K.A.

I think the whole assault weapons issue, along with the number of other

weapons is blown all out of proportion. It doesn't really matter what weapon a person has so much as why they want

to kill people. In reality, you can kill more people faster with car than you can with an assualt weapon. The

culture, the fear you mentioned is more likely the major cause of the problem. Taking guns away from people will not

stop the killing. Rather, I think it will be worse for law abiding citizens. The criminals will certainly have an

easier time of it when their victims are less likely to be able to fight back. I posted an article in Open

Discussion about San Francisco outlawing hand gun ownership recently. People have until April to turn them in. I

wonder just how many of the criminals will be turning in their guns. Any bets? I feel comfortable in estimating that

it will be well under 1%. Any bets on the increase in violent crimes? Does anybody believe the police will do a

better job of preventing violent criminals from having guns?

The real solutions, as implied in your post, is to

get to the root source of the fear and violence and work on fixing those problems. Taking the ability to defend

themselves away from law abiding citizens is only going to make things worse.

12-13-2005, 04:29 PM	#9
HcMkOKiz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Tim, I have three daughters and no sons so my daughters got to do a lot of the things a dad would normaly do with a son. All three can shoot a pistol or a rifle competently, among a number of other skills not normally associated with girls. They are all fine shots with either and were very easy to train. All of them are invited to the range whenever I go and often go with me. I've been handling firearms since I was a young child and remember clearly the lessons taught me about gun safety. My family didn't tolerate stupid actions around guns. The lessons may have been abrupt but weren't often forgotten. Texas concealed carry requires 10-15 hours classroom time plus range qualifying. The primary focus of the classroom time is on non-violent conflict resolution, your responsibility and the law rather than on combat skills. Then every year continuing ed and re-qualifying. I was seriously surprised to discover that they won't even send you the application until they've done a premilinary background check. In the end, there are a lot of concealed carry licenses issued in this state but, to date, there have been very few crimes commited with a legally carried concealed weapon. A.K.A. I think the whole assault weapons issue, along with the number of other weapons is blown all out of proportion. It doesn't really matter what weapon a person has so much as why they want to kill people. In reality, you can kill more people faster with car than you can with an assualt weapon. The culture, the fear you mentioned is more likely the major cause of the problem. Taking guns away from people will not stop the killing. Rather, I think it will be worse for law abiding citizens. The criminals will certainly have an easier time of it when their victims are less likely to be able to fight back. I posted an article in Open Discussion about San Francisco outlawing hand gun ownership recently. People have until April to turn them in. I wonder just how many of the criminals will be turning in their guns. Any bets? I feel comfortable in estimating that it will be well under 1%. Any bets on the increase in violent crimes? Does anybody believe the police will do a better job of preventing violent criminals from having guns? The real solutions, as implied in your post, is to get to the root source of the fear and violence and work on fixing those problems. Taking the ability to defend themselves away from law abiding citizens is only going to make things worse.
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