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**borasolit** · 09-16-2011, 05:46 AM

You forgot taqlid shakhsi of the Salafi madhab, i.e. Albani, Uthaymeen, Bin Baz etc.

Thats not taqleed shakhsi.

I voted for number 4 as i am gradually getting convinced that Taqleed (or atleast Taqleed e Shakhsi) is the root of many problems.

Ulama like Shaykh Albani and Shaykh ibn Uthaymeen also agree that taqleed for lay people is necessary.

I would say Sufism is the root of many problems because of the level of blind obedience that comes with peer-mureed relationship. Taqleed is not really an issue if its kept within limits.

Since we're bringing up the Hanbali madhab it always confuses me, I read a couple of the sayings of Ahmad (rah) and he obviously was no fan of taqleed but how is it that he has a Madhab and a Muqallideen then???

Scholars and students are not associated with a madhab on the basis of taqleed, rather they are affiliated to the madhab because of its principles as dr.ati explained.

So if a layperson wants to be 'Hanbali' on the taqleed issue, he does general unrestricted taqleed of any imam.

taqlid in fiqh is compulsory on everyone who doesn't fulfill the conditions of a Mujtahid Mutlaq.

Do you agree there are different levels of ijtihad?
If yes, then how can one do ijtihad and taqleed in the same issue at the same time?

Are you sure you quoted that correctly?

You know, if you're just going to regurgitate Harris Hammam's posts on IA, you might as well just stop posting here and just let anyone interested read it from him directly.

What was the point of your post exactly when I did post a direct link to his posts where people can read.

09-16-2011, 05:46 AM	#31
borasolit Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	You forgot taqlid shakhsi of the Salafi madhab, i.e. Albani, Uthaymeen, Bin Baz etc. Thats not taqleed shakhsi. I voted for number 4 as i am gradually getting convinced that Taqleed (or atleast Taqleed e Shakhsi) is the root of many problems. Ulama like Shaykh Albani and Shaykh ibn Uthaymeen also agree that taqleed for lay people is necessary. I would say Sufism is the root of many problems because of the level of blind obedience that comes with peer-mureed relationship. Taqleed is not really an issue if its kept within limits. Since we're bringing up the Hanbali madhab it always confuses me, I read a couple of the sayings of Ahmad (rah) and he obviously was no fan of taqleed but how is it that he has a Madhab and a Muqallideen then??? Scholars and students are not associated with a madhab on the basis of taqleed, rather they are affiliated to the madhab because of its principles as dr.ati explained. So if a layperson wants to be 'Hanbali' on the taqleed issue, he does general unrestricted taqleed of any imam. taqlid in fiqh is compulsory on everyone who doesn't fulfill the conditions of a Mujtahid Mutlaq. Do you agree there are different levels of ijtihad? If yes, then how can one do ijtihad and taqleed in the same issue at the same time? Are you sure you quoted that correctly? You know, if you're just going to regurgitate Harris Hammam's posts on IA, you might as well just stop posting here and just let anyone interested read it from him directly. What was the point of your post exactly when I did post a direct link to his posts where people can read.
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