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**johnteriz** · 10-30-2008, 06:37 PM

The WTA ranking structure is a hot mess. Major titles are grossly undervalued. I'd like to see them do something more like this. Though maybe this is too drastic in the opposite direction. Or maybe not. I'm not sure yet.

I'm not sure what you're seeing, or I'm missing. Both tours award 1000 points for a major. The WTA awards 430-500 for winning a Tier I tourney. The ATP awards 500 for winning a Masters Series event. Points for runner-up, semis, quarters are all fairly similarly distributed. For the majors:
ATP--1000/700/450/250/150/75/35/5
WTA--1000/700/450/250/140/90/60/2

Up to early 2006, Gilles Simon was below the top 120. Now he's #10 in the world, and #8 in the Race. Good chance under this system he might never had done that in 3 seasons.

Even worse...how about Neps? 171 in January of this year, now 53. Guaranteed he would not have risen 120 ranking spots in one season with this in place.

I'm not certain how I feel about it yet. But I'm leaning toward not liking it. It invites good, but not top players, to tier down to chase points, rather than play the big events, I think.

Neps? What's a Neps?

It will be interesting as this change bubbles through the rankings week by week. For instance, suppose a 2009 tournament has the exact same results as the 2008 version. Players well get double the points, for the exact same performance. There will be some odd rankings changes, as each tournament goes on.

10-30-2008, 06:37 PM	#27
johnteriz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 443 Senior Member	The WTA ranking structure is a hot mess. Major titles are grossly undervalued. I'd like to see them do something more like this. Though maybe this is too drastic in the opposite direction. Or maybe not. I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure what you're seeing, or I'm missing. Both tours award 1000 points for a major. The WTA awards 430-500 for winning a Tier I tourney. The ATP awards 500 for winning a Masters Series event. Points for runner-up, semis, quarters are all fairly similarly distributed. For the majors: ATP--1000/700/450/250/150/75/35/5 WTA--1000/700/450/250/140/90/60/2 Up to early 2006, Gilles Simon was below the top 120. Now he's #10 in the world, and #8 in the Race. Good chance under this system he might never had done that in 3 seasons. Even worse...how about Neps? 171 in January of this year, now 53. Guaranteed he would not have risen 120 ranking spots in one season with this in place. I'm not certain how I feel about it yet. But I'm leaning toward not liking it. It invites good, but not top players, to tier down to chase points, rather than play the big events, I think. Neps? What's a Neps? It will be interesting as this change bubbles through the rankings week by week. For instance, suppose a 2009 tournament has the exact same results as the 2008 version. Players well get double the points, for the exact same performance. There will be some odd rankings changes, as each tournament goes on.
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