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**jackie Obrian** · 10-02-2011, 08:50 PM

not at all, but when see I Vollmer rated 7th, I quickly dismiss and wouldn't use it as an argument. Some of these stat things can be fun, but really mean nothing, I'm generally pretty dismissive of such things. They have some value, but limited.

To me if you're going to use it say Clay is best player in the NFL, then you should be using it to say Matt Shaub is better than Rodgers.

And since it's not case, I'll pass on it.

So because a formula is not perfect, it has NO merit, or use as a discussion point? By that gauge, OXS, which is 98.5% accurate in predicting runs scored, should be thrown out, because it is not perfect?

I didn't say it was the be all end all.

I said 'according to profootballreference.com, polamalu wasn't the best player in the league", and you jumped all over my shit, as if I were holding this up as the holy grail of football rankings. I didn't even say I AGREED. I just said "this is what these guys say" and posted a link.

I swear to christ, people get so god damn touchy around here about debating ANYTHING any more.

We're not supposed to talk about Jordy Nelson's drops (because the Packers won).

We can't talk about Aaron Rodgers maybe not succeeding outside Green Bay. And now I can't use a less-than-PERFECT reference as a point of discussion.

I don't know why we even bother with his shit anymore. Nobody wants to discuss or debate, they just want to be right.

10-02-2011, 08:50 PM	#67
jackie Obrian Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 554 Senior Member	not at all, but when see I Vollmer rated 7th, I quickly dismiss and wouldn't use it as an argument. Some of these stat things can be fun, but really mean nothing, I'm generally pretty dismissive of such things. They have some value, but limited. To me if you're going to use it say Clay is best player in the NFL, then you should be using it to say Matt Shaub is better than Rodgers. And since it's not case, I'll pass on it. So because a formula is not perfect, it has NO merit, or use as a discussion point? By that gauge, OXS, which is 98.5% accurate in predicting runs scored, should be thrown out, because it is not perfect? I didn't say it was the be all end all. I said 'according to profootballreference.com, polamalu wasn't the best player in the league", and you jumped all over my shit, as if I were holding this up as the holy grail of football rankings. I didn't even say I AGREED. I just said "this is what these guys say" and posted a link. I swear to christ, people get so god damn touchy around here about debating ANYTHING any more. We're not supposed to talk about Jordy Nelson's drops (because the Packers won). We can't talk about Aaron Rodgers maybe not succeeding outside Green Bay. And now I can't use a less-than-PERFECT reference as a point of discussion. I don't know why we even bother with his shit anymore. Nobody wants to discuss or debate, they just want to be right.
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