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**casinobonuscxz** · 07-25-2012, 11:14 PM

What do you mean by best?

In terms of raw speed it has ebbed and flowed all year between, IMHO, McLaren and RBR but RBR edges it as McLaren's Achilles heel is the rain/inters

Alonso has picked up the pieces with consistency to top WDC, not to mention Ferrari is an all round car that suits different conditions.

I can't see how you can say MGP is best car. Still has a problem from last year eating up its tyres. On a single lap they can give the top 3 teams a hard time but for race? Forget it unless its really cool conditions as in China & Monaco.

Well stated Wedge!

and a difficult question Rollo. From the horses mouth:
Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug insists that the team needs to find half a second to match the pace of the F1 front-runners if it wants to win again this season.//
"The last two races have shown that we currently lack around half a second a lap to the pace-setters. This is clear to all in the team and we'll be doing our maximum to develop the car further and close the gap." Mercedes 'half a second off the pace' | F1 News | Jul 2012 | Crash.Net
That is not to say they are not "Fast" Their DDRS is very useful in quali but in race trim serves very little useful purpose. Plus they are prone to very rapid tire wear especially on their rears. McLaren and RED Bull are currently huge question marks as the former has just had their engine map cheating device banned, and McLaren have not had enough dry running with their latest developments, but both are at or near the top. Williams aberration is that they don't have a Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso, or Raik' behind the wheel, otherwise they have great pace. Lotus and Ferrari are also in a group at the top, The distinction I draw is that up until now Red Bull, Ferrari, Williams, and Sauber seem to be less "temperature window" dependant on turning their tires on without overcooking them. McLaren has been lagging a little in that department. Lotus seems best suited to hot track temps or at least tracks with high speed corners that generate heat with tire load.
My short answer is that it is really dependant on the characteristics of each track, when assessing the cars alone without considering driver input. Here is graphed performance as positioned by results - track temp you might find interesting:

07-25-2012, 11:14 PM	#4
casinobonuscxz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	What do you mean by best? In terms of raw speed it has ebbed and flowed all year between, IMHO, McLaren and RBR but RBR edges it as McLaren's Achilles heel is the rain/inters Alonso has picked up the pieces with consistency to top WDC, not to mention Ferrari is an all round car that suits different conditions. I can't see how you can say MGP is best car. Still has a problem from last year eating up its tyres. On a single lap they can give the top 3 teams a hard time but for race? Forget it unless its really cool conditions as in China & Monaco. Well stated Wedge! and a difficult question Rollo. From the horses mouth: Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug insists that the team needs to find half a second to match the pace of the F1 front-runners if it wants to win again this season.// "The last two races have shown that we currently lack around half a second a lap to the pace-setters. This is clear to all in the team and we'll be doing our maximum to develop the car further and close the gap." Mercedes 'half a second off the pace' \| F1 News \| Jul 2012 \| Crash.Net That is not to say they are not "Fast" Their DDRS is very useful in quali but in race trim serves very little useful purpose. Plus they are prone to very rapid tire wear especially on their rears. McLaren and RED Bull are currently huge question marks as the former has just had their engine map cheating device banned, and McLaren have not had enough dry running with their latest developments, but both are at or near the top. Williams aberration is that they don't have a Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso, or Raik' behind the wheel, otherwise they have great pace. Lotus and Ferrari are also in a group at the top, The distinction I draw is that up until now Red Bull, Ferrari, Williams, and Sauber seem to be less "temperature window" dependant on turning their tires on without overcooking them. McLaren has been lagging a little in that department. Lotus seems best suited to hot track temps or at least tracks with high speed corners that generate heat with tire load. My short answer is that it is really dependant on the characteristics of each track, when assessing the cars alone without considering driver input. Here is graphed performance as positioned by results - track temp you might find interesting:
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