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**Sdzqerty** · 07-29-2012, 04:09 PM

I find the Red Bull situation intriguing. And certainly some events this year (related to rules and regulations) have caught attention. However, the difficult matter is, how should we evaluate them? It is easy to call them cheaters, but then again... they haven't been disqualified yet! Not even once! It is not like they are blatantly cheating, but they are going just as far as the loopholes possibly allow them to go, without getting DQ'd. So they are still playing by the rules - they are pushing the limits, but even RBR has the limits! They know, what they can do and what they can't without getting DQ'd.

Well, according to what I understand they could have easily been DQ for breaking the parc ferme rules, even without the clarification by FIA.

Make up your mind Garry! A couple of years ago you were complaining that the rules are too restrictive and allow zero innovation. Now Red Bull starts pommeling the competition for the past 2 years by their fair interpretations of the rules and you get all cranky. I'm not sure why you dislike Vettel so much, but it's his right to complain and have a reaction to the situations around him from time to time. I really like the guy because he's not some corporate zombie who nods and smiles all the time, but actually gives an opinion. As for Helmut Marko, we share the same view about that creep.

Bieber is the most fake athlete I know, arrogant to the extreme and overrated even more.

As for the rrogance of Horner, Marco, Vettel, well, that's not cheating; merely classless.

I never said it was cheating, just merely used the opportunity to launch an attack on them

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07-29-2012, 04:09 PM	#24
Sdzqerty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	I find the Red Bull situation intriguing. And certainly some events this year (related to rules and regulations) have caught attention. However, the difficult matter is, how should we evaluate them? It is easy to call them cheaters, but then again... they haven't been disqualified yet! Not even once! It is not like they are blatantly cheating, but they are going just as far as the loopholes possibly allow them to go, without getting DQ'd. So they are still playing by the rules - they are pushing the limits, but even RBR has the limits! They know, what they can do and what they can't without getting DQ'd. Well, according to what I understand they could have easily been DQ for breaking the parc ferme rules, even without the clarification by FIA. Make up your mind Garry! A couple of years ago you were complaining that the rules are too restrictive and allow zero innovation. Now Red Bull starts pommeling the competition for the past 2 years by their fair interpretations of the rules and you get all cranky. I'm not sure why you dislike Vettel so much, but it's his right to complain and have a reaction to the situations around him from time to time. I really like the guy because he's not some corporate zombie who nods and smiles all the time, but actually gives an opinion. As for Helmut Marko, we share the same view about that creep. Bieber is the most fake athlete I know, arrogant to the extreme and overrated even more. As for the rrogance of Horner, Marco, Vettel, well, that's not cheating; merely classless. I never said it was cheating, just merely used the opportunity to launch an attack on them .
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