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**astonmartinrx371** · 07-30-2012, 06:41 PM

Track limits are often debatable. i.e here in Hungary we have seen some drivers running wider and wider and there were no penalties. Although most did lose time rather than gain it.

Cheating is tough to call that clearly at times, look at the chicane at the top of the hill at Imola. Every driver would launch over those kerbs taking more and more speed through and putting more and more of there car off the track.

What I am trying to say is that it that situation every driver will "cheat" as much as they can to gain advantage by cutting the corner. The fia put high kerbs in place to stop the drivers doing that, but its the same everywhere. At turn 5 or 6 at Budapest they have for years run wider and more off the track to gain illegal time.

It is a different case in the Seb case. But as I posted on page one of another thread, they need to put gravel or grass back there in order to stop this. Because as I post also we have seen 2 or 3 same moves in years past. Sebs was no different to Schumachers at the same corner in 2003.

This brings up a great point that seems to be overlooked. When a pass is made off track people are up in arms and to that point I can agree. But really any time a driver leaves the track by intentionally taking a wide line they are gaining advantage in the form of time. In Hungary there were a lot of cars going four wheels off track at various corners.

Alonso's pole lap in Germany was made on a lap where his car clearly went all four wheels off track on the final corner. Yet the lap counted. Food for thought.

As for the ride height issues, I haven't seen that much about it. I know on the Speed coverage they mentioned that the RB system really isn't different then that of several other teams, yet nobody is crying about the "several other teams". The nature of the sport is to be more critical of cars doing well.

07-30-2012, 06:41 PM	#31
astonmartinrx371 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 628 Senior Member	Track limits are often debatable. i.e here in Hungary we have seen some drivers running wider and wider and there were no penalties. Although most did lose time rather than gain it. Cheating is tough to call that clearly at times, look at the chicane at the top of the hill at Imola. Every driver would launch over those kerbs taking more and more speed through and putting more and more of there car off the track. What I am trying to say is that it that situation every driver will "cheat" as much as they can to gain advantage by cutting the corner. The fia put high kerbs in place to stop the drivers doing that, but its the same everywhere. At turn 5 or 6 at Budapest they have for years run wider and more off the track to gain illegal time. It is a different case in the Seb case. But as I posted on page one of another thread, they need to put gravel or grass back there in order to stop this. Because as I post also we have seen 2 or 3 same moves in years past. Sebs was no different to Schumachers at the same corner in 2003. This brings up a great point that seems to be overlooked. When a pass is made off track people are up in arms and to that point I can agree. But really any time a driver leaves the track by intentionally taking a wide line they are gaining advantage in the form of time. In Hungary there were a lot of cars going four wheels off track at various corners. Alonso's pole lap in Germany was made on a lap where his car clearly went all four wheels off track on the final corner. Yet the lap counted. Food for thought. As for the ride height issues, I haven't seen that much about it. I know on the Speed coverage they mentioned that the RB system really isn't different then that of several other teams, yet nobody is crying about the "several other teams". The nature of the sport is to be more critical of cars doing well.
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