[vaalmerruutel]

Sounds like a good way to get bit, my b/f did that a few months back because the younger two were under a desk fighting, I grabbed one dog around the waist and yanked her back out so I could grab her collar, he sticks his hands under the desk (into Nero's mouth), don't know if he was going for a collar or what he was thinking but lucky the dog didn't bite down, realized he had James and not Ripley's face. He's lucky, I wouldn't have risked that.