i should rephrase by saying that on the days I am striking the ball well and playing my better golf game or on the days where my tee shots are working for me.(and sometimes thats all that may work for me that day) On those days my tee shots will often end up with several drives that get out there that far. Not every one but quite a few. Just last week I couldn't chip or put for nothing but was driving really well and had more than a few tee shots that were in that range. One of those I can specifically remember was 278 into a slightly uphill fairway. I dont want to get into an argument here about how far i can drive and i didnt come here to brag or BS anybody. I dont have a big ego nor do i let my ego dictate what i nead to say and do. Heck, i am still trying to get back into the 80's. I could care less about bragging to anyone or make false statements to anyone. it is what it is. I have no desire or nead to do ither. It is what it is and if you don't believe me I dont care nor should I have to explain. Perhaps i could have been a bit more specific about "only when hitting well on that day" but I would like to just get back to the subject.