My course has the stimp rating posted next to the pin placement outside the club house. I don't know how often they updated it but it usually reads somewhere between 11-12. My guess is it's pretty accurate. They are definitely the fastest greens in the area. JB, why don't you guys get/build a stimp device and measure the speeds on the tour van trip around the country. From my understanding it's just a ramp and tape measure. It would be fun to see how they compare across the country.