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**Joesred** · 01-04-2007, 04:30 AM

i trust the cia more then i trust the people they pick up. stories of prisoners falsly accusing and exagerating thier treatment have come out of guantomno and else where.. all in an effort to tarnish america.. personally i am for torture of people we KNOW to be terrorists but i guess its impossible to tell for sure exactly how guilty a person is. but these methods are not exactly what i would call torture in the medievle sense.. so i am not that bothered by it... let me know if we start raping children and wives infront of people.. removing various body parts.. etc.. then i will be upset.. but only if the guy was innocent.

The people coming out of being tortured are not tarnishing America.

America is tarnishing itself by torturing people.

These methods are not exactly what you would call torture?!?!

His clothes were taken from him when he arrived, and he was left completely naked for a month and a half, including during questioning by women interrogators and filming. He was chained tightly to the wall of his small cell so that he could not stand up, placed in painful stress positions so that he had difficulty breathing, and told that if he did not cooperate he would be put in a suffocating “dog box.” Seriously?

And you say people come out of Gitmo falsely accusing the US of torturing them? That's weird, because in 2005 the US government admitted to torturing people at Gitmo. And Iraq and Afghanistan.

US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN
06.24.2005, 11:37 AM

GENEVA (AFX) - Washington has, for the first time, acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said.

The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity.

'They are no longer trying to duck this and have respected their obligation to inform the UN,' the Committee member said.

'They they will have to explain themselves (to the Committee). Nothing should be kept in the dark,' he said.

UN sources said this is the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities.

The Committee, which monitors respect for the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, is gathering information from the US ahead of hearings in May 2006. US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN - Forbes.com So much for being proud of our country....

01-04-2007, 04:30 AM	#10
Joesred Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	i trust the cia more then i trust the people they pick up. stories of prisoners falsly accusing and exagerating thier treatment have come out of guantomno and else where.. all in an effort to tarnish america.. personally i am for torture of people we KNOW to be terrorists but i guess its impossible to tell for sure exactly how guilty a person is. but these methods are not exactly what i would call torture in the medievle sense.. so i am not that bothered by it... let me know if we start raping children and wives infront of people.. removing various body parts.. etc.. then i will be upset.. but only if the guy was innocent. The people coming out of being tortured are not tarnishing America. America is tarnishing itself by torturing people. These methods are not exactly what you would call torture?!?! His clothes were taken from him when he arrived, and he was left completely naked for a month and a half, including during questioning by women interrogators and filming. He was chained tightly to the wall of his small cell so that he could not stand up, placed in painful stress positions so that he had difficulty breathing, and told that if he did not cooperate he would be put in a suffocating “dog box.” Seriously? And you say people come out of Gitmo falsely accusing the US of torturing them? That's weird, because in 2005 the US government admitted to torturing people at Gitmo. And Iraq and Afghanistan. US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN 06.24.2005, 11:37 AM GENEVA (AFX) - Washington has, for the first time, acknowledged to the United Nations that prisoners have been tortured at US detention centres in Guantanamo Bay, as well as Afghanistan and Iraq, a UN source said. The acknowledgement was made in a report submitted to the UN Committee against Torture, said a member of the ten-person panel, speaking on on condition of anonymity. 'They are no longer trying to duck this and have respected their obligation to inform the UN,' the Committee member said. 'They they will have to explain themselves (to the Committee). Nothing should be kept in the dark,' he said. UN sources said this is the first time the world body has received such a frank statement on torture from US authorities. The Committee, which monitors respect for the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, is gathering information from the US ahead of hearings in May 2006. US acknowledges torture at Guantanamo; in Iraq, Afghanistan - UN - Forbes.com So much for being proud of our country....
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