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**Jerwittdergut** · 02-03-2007, 07:28 PM

Point being he wasnt supposed to leave the country. He was supposed to report for induction. But, I dont know how much of this is true, so who knows. I am simply saying if thats what he did, it was dodging the draft through illegal means, unlike his other draft dodging, which was using contacts. If this is what Guiliani did, then yes, its the same thing. And I have a problem with both of them trying to get out of service.

As you say, we don't know for sure what happened then and I can't say I remember enough about the incident to discuss it intelligently. On the other hand, Vietnam was it's own beast and there were a lot of people who did everything they could to get out of going. I don't see anything different between him not going really and Bush using his contacts to get into the national guard so he wouldn't be deployed. Just different avenues that were available if one was poor or if one was rich. In fact, I work for someone who's student deferrment got pulled for his anti-war activism during that time.

Do you have the same objections to Cheney's five deferrments, though? They didn't seem to bother anyone during the campaign and were barely discussed except by folk who wouldn't have voted for Bush/Cheney in any event.

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Jerwittdergut Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Point being he wasnt supposed to leave the country. He was supposed to report for induction. But, I dont know how much of this is true, so who knows. I am simply saying if thats what he did, it was dodging the draft through illegal means, unlike his other draft dodging, which was using contacts. If this is what Guiliani did, then yes, its the same thing. And I have a problem with both of them trying to get out of service. As you say, we don't know for sure what happened then and I can't say I remember enough about the incident to discuss it intelligently. On the other hand, Vietnam was it's own beast and there were a lot of people who did everything they could to get out of going. I don't see anything different between him not going really and Bush using his contacts to get into the national guard so he wouldn't be deployed. Just different avenues that were available if one was poor or if one was rich. In fact, I work for someone who's student deferrment got pulled for his anti-war activism during that time. Do you have the same objections to Cheney's five deferrments, though? They didn't seem to bother anyone during the campaign and were barely discussed except by folk who wouldn't have voted for Bush/Cheney in any event.
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