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**Nurse_sero** · 02-24-2007, 05:29 AM

That is certainly how it would sound the way i worded it. But the only rights are those rights granted by the state, and i think this particular right is worth granting.

Andrew

I'm still reading the rest of the posts but jumped in here so apologies if it's out of whack with the others.

I'm not a fan of the idea that the state grants rights. I'm much more keen on the natural rights idea, that we have rights simply by being human. Our rights can only be curtailed by the state and we accept that as part of the social contract we have with the state. I like the reasoning behind the US Constitution, it's based on natural law theory and accepts that - since I'm not religious this doesn't follow for me at least - the Creator has given us rights, not fellow humans. I don't know if the Charter follows the same philosophy, I would think it would be based on natural rights as well.

So, the debate is really which rights should be curtailed and to what extent.

02-24-2007, 05:29 AM	#30
Nurse_sero Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 562 Senior Member	That is certainly how it would sound the way i worded it. But the only rights are those rights granted by the state, and i think this particular right is worth granting. Andrew I'm still reading the rest of the posts but jumped in here so apologies if it's out of whack with the others. I'm not a fan of the idea that the state grants rights. I'm much more keen on the natural rights idea, that we have rights simply by being human. Our rights can only be curtailed by the state and we accept that as part of the social contract we have with the state. I like the reasoning behind the US Constitution, it's based on natural law theory and accepts that - since I'm not religious this doesn't follow for me at least - the Creator has given us rights, not fellow humans. I don't know if the Charter follows the same philosophy, I would think it would be based on natural rights as well. So, the debate is really which rights should be curtailed and to what extent.
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