[masaredera]

Andrew your an intelligent guy...the reason it seems confusing is becuse of what is potrtrayed of people's views. See for every protestor who goes around saying Bush killed Children and Cheney eats babies, how many do you think sit at home and support the war? I support the war, but i don't go around the streets shouting and screaming about it do i?? For all of us who do support the war do you ever hear about it? Does it ever get mentioned? There are a lot of folks voices who never get heard as far as public opinion goes because we're not so vocal but our way of politics is different, we wait until election day and actually go vote in mass numbers because we already know who and what we're gonna vote for, we rally our bases differently. We don't go tell the entire nation "Vote for us as he did this or that" but we respond to those we get energy and feedback fom ourselves, those likely to actually vote for us. Its a completely diffeent system and i'll get into it more in refference to your statement about Democratic deficits.

I certainly don't think polling is a perfect science but it is fairly accurate. There is no question Americans supported the war at its inception, and i think it is fair to say those numbers have dropped considerably over the last for years.

In the other countries the feelings against the war from the get-go were quite apparent. At no other time in history did so many people worldwide at one time protest a thing as much as they protested the Iraq invasion. Certainly that is reflective of the opinion of a significant amount of people...

In Spain and Italy specifically their leaders brought them to war in total defiance of their peoples wishes. That is the democratic deficit. The people wanted one thing, and the elected leaders did the opposite.

Andrew